Kevin Coster's "Open Range". Pros & Cons.

I think it is one of my favorite movies. Killing the dog was reason enough to shoot the ……..

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Don't shoot a mans dog.
 
Ya always gotta let them have the first shot! Also the philharmonic orcrestra has got to be following you around. Indians must speak the kings english far better than ferralmerril. Mexican men must look like you just moved a rock and they showed up. All mexican women must look like linda carter. Horse`s must be able to travel at 65 mph and never stop to crap or eat. Once in awhile we let the village lunitic along to hold the horse`s. The livery stable owner must be 80 years old and have a gray walrus mustach and whip thin. The grocery store owner and wife must speak with a norwegian accent. All townspeople must be quivering cowards until inspired by ann margeret or similar, only the banker is allowed to wear thick glass`s, the house`s in town seem to have two dozzen residents each, all buildings are made of 40 year old aged unpainted lumber, The christian church go`ers must be cross eyed and extreamly passive, everyone but the hero must wear suspenders, guns must be wore impossibley low. No leading role allowed to anyone with over a 34" waist. Squinty eyes help.
I shoulda been a director or writer!
 
Ya always gotta let them have the first shot! Also the philharmonic orcrestra has got to be following you around. Indians must speak the kings english far better than ferralmerril. Mexican men must look like you just moved a rock and they showed up. All mexican women must look like linda carter. Horse`s must be able to travel at 65 mph and never stop to crap or eat. Once in awhile we let the village lunitic along to hold the horse`s. The livery stable owner must be 80 years old and have a gray walrus mustach and whip thin. The grocery store owner and wife must speak with a norwegian accent. All townspeople must be quivering cowards until inspired by ann margeret or similar, only the banker is allowed to wear thick glass`s, the house`s in town seem to have two dozzen residents each, all buildings are made of 40 year old aged unpainted lumber, The christian church go`ers must be cross eyed and extreamly passive, everyone but the hero must wear suspenders, guns must be wore impossibley low. No leading role allowed to anyone with over a 34" waist. Squinty eyes help.
I shoulda been a director or writer!

Huh?

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I agree, you would be a great director.
Also, Ann Margaret could inspire me to be a hero also, and Jimmy is a big coward.

Ya always gotta let them have the first shot! Also the philharmonic orcrestra has got to be following you around. Indians must speak the kings english far better than ferralmerril. Mexican men must look like you just moved a rock and they showed up. All mexican women must look like linda carter. Horse`s must be able to travel at 65 mph and never stop to crap or eat. Once in awhile we let the village lunitic along to hold the horse`s. The livery stable owner must be 80 years old and have a gray walrus mustach and whip thin. The grocery store owner and wife must speak with a norwegian accent. All townspeople must be quivering cowards until inspired by ann margeret or similar, only the banker is allowed to wear thick glass`s, the house`s in town seem to have two dozzen residents each, all buildings are made of 40 year old aged unpainted lumber, The christian church go`ers must be cross eyed and extreamly passive, everyone but the hero must wear suspenders, guns must be wore impossibley low. No leading role allowed to anyone with over a 34" waist. Squinty eyes help.
I shoulda been a director or writer!
 
Ya always gotta let them have the first shot! Also the philharmonic orcrestra has got to be following you around. Indians must speak the kings english far better than ferralmerril. Mexican men must look like you just moved a rock and they showed up. All mexican women must look like linda carter. Horse`s must be able to travel at 65 mph and never stop to crap or eat. Once in awhile we let the village lunitic along to hold the horse`s. The livery stable owner must be 80 years old and have a gray walrus mustach and whip thin. The grocery store owner and wife must speak with a norwegian accent. All townspeople must be quivering cowards until inspired by ann margeret or similar, only the banker is allowed to wear thick glass`s, the house`s in town seem to have two dozzen residents each, all buildings are made of 40 year old aged unpainted lumber, The christian church go`ers must be cross eyed and extreamly passive, everyone but the hero must wear suspenders, guns must be wore impossibley low. No leading role allowed to anyone with over a 34" waist. Squinty eyes help.
I shoulda been a director or writer!
The only hard liqour in saloons is whiskey and beer (BS), school teachers were always women who aren't allowed to marry, all towns must have one town drunk, one mean gunfighter can take over an entire town when the Marshall is gone (Gunsmoke), All towns have one saloon, one doctor, one blacksmith, etc., chicks in saloons will drink with ya' but they aren't hookers (Gunsmoke), All guys wearing guns and vests when they ride into town at the start are gaurenteed to be killed by the hero in a half hour (Rifleman), or in an hour (Gunsmoke), piano players in saloons have to wear a derby,everyone who uses a gun has to carry a Colt single action or two, all gambling and action ends at 9:00 PM then the town is dark and silent (Gunsmoke), stores and saloons always have supplies but theres never any teamsters coming in and out of town, Marshalls are allowed only one deputy regardless of the size of the town, only poker allowed in the saloons, anyone with Indian blood are automatically great trackers, full blooded indians must talk in metaphores, when talking to indians the hero must speak in broken english, indian cheifs usually look like Buster Keaton in a wig, whenever a Mexican character enters the scene you hear the strumming of a guitar even if they are really German or Jewish (Horst Buchholz and Eli Wallach in Magnificent Seven), every hero gets amnesia and goes blind at least once (Gunsmoke, etc.), and nobody was gay in the old west (except in Little Big Man).
 
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I like it alot also. I don't nitpick the technicalitys too much,,it's entertainment afterall.
I thought Costners hat was OK,,didn't look any different than alot of those I've seen in period photos of the time.
At least it didn't have that Hollywood look.

I'll second 'Broken Trail' w/ Duvall. Excellent movie IMHO
 
Last ten minutes of movie. Bad guys are lined up in the street with Duvall and Costner aproaching. "Are you the guy who shot our friend" Bad guy "yes I am and I shot the kid too" Costner pulls his gun and shoots the bad guy thru the scull. BUTT THEN Costner follows and keeps shooting another bad guy about 15 times. Maybe the first wonder nine Colt. If your not a purest, which I ain't, I thought it was a great movie. Duvall is one hell of an actor. Ever seen Tender Mercies? Beats Crazy Heart all to hell for realism.

Great movies, but I too noticed the never-empty SAA. I thought he would never stop shooting so he could reload! Otherwise there wasn't much to criticize.
 
I think far more people in the west were into mineing than ranching and all other occupations put together. Yet the films doesnt show much of it. It seems just about every town out here existed because a mine started it.
Pioche nevada is about 90 miles west of cedar city where I live. I have yet to see it even referanced to in a movie.
Pioche - Nevada Ghost Town
Yet its said to have been the most wildest dangerous town in the west at one time. I have walked boot hill there and it is filled with murder victims. It`s not exactly a ghost town as people live there, but probley just a fraction of what it had. There are about 3 small bars that have slot machines. It`s kind of like virginnia city nevada but smaller.
Another real ghost town about 70 miles northwest of us is Frisco utah.
Frisco, Utah - Ghostown With a Ten Year High
No one at all lives there. Legend has it almost as fact it was so wild they had a lawman from pioche come to clean it out. He told everyone he wasnt going to arrest anyone as there was no jail. Supposedly he killed 6 people that first night to get his point across! I have been trying to research his name to no avail, but do have names of lawmen from pinoce of that era.
Gold springs utah sits on the utah/nevada state line, about 65 miles west of us. Theresa and I have been to these places numerous times and keep looking for more on our ATV rides.
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State line utah sits on the utah/nevada border about 8 miles north of gold springs as the crow flys, a lot farther by trails.
Stateline, Utah - Ghost Towns Of The West - Ghost Towns - Ancient Lost Treasures - Message Board
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This is what we do.
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Ya always gotta let them have the first shot! Also the philharmonic orcrestra has got to be following you around. Indians must speak the kings english far better than ferralmerril. Mexican men must look like you just moved a rock and they showed up. All mexican women must look like linda carter. Horse`s must be able to travel at 65 mph and never stop to crap or eat. Once in awhile we let the village lunitic along to hold the horse`s. The livery stable owner must be 80 years old and have a gray walrus mustach and whip thin. The grocery store owner and wife must speak with a norwegian accent. All townspeople must be quivering cowards until inspired by ann margeret or similar, only the banker is allowed to wear thick glass`s, the house`s in town seem to have two dozzen residents each, all buildings are made of 40 year old aged unpainted lumber, The christian church go`ers must be cross eyed and extreamly passive, everyone but the hero must wear suspenders, guns must be wore impossibley low. No leading role allowed to anyone with over a 34" waist. Squinty eyes help.
I shoulda been a director or writer!

This is hilarious, FM. I laughed out loud and I needed a good laugh.
 
Open Range is one of my favorite westerns. I love the lightning storm and heavy rain through the surrond sound. I don't care about the SA Colt 15 shooters and all that. It's just good entertainment for a couple of hours. Beats most of the crap they have on TV.
 
Hi, Feralmerril:
Is metal detectors allowed to be used in in the area that you explore?
I am thinking that some old weapons might be found in those old places.
I really enjoy your posts about exploring those places.
Jimmy
 
jimmy, I have been wondering the same thing. I do have a old detector but not much experience useing it. Some mines do have no tresspassing signs, but most them are on BLM land as far as I know. I have packed my detector along but havent used it yet. Usualy these mines are where you need a 4wd or quad. All are dangerous. Some have a fence and rebar network around and over them. I suspect the biggest percentage of them have ran out of the time they were given due to not being worked or money invested in them for whatever the requirement is.
I belive in thinking about it, I will make a point of going to our local BLM office and try to find out, and report back here. I do know some laws and their views on picking up indian artifacts. In short, you cant.
I have come across holes where you can throw a rock in and not find the bottom. Also I have seen rickerty ladders go down so far in a black hole they go out of sight! There are a lot of old fell in huge buildings with lots of steel and iron machines in many areas. I know of all fell in stores you can walk in to with no signs at all telling you cant, and once in awhile see other people walking in them too. However, if there is old no tresspassing signs around I respect them. I would estimate by the ones I have visited its close to 50% signs or not. And with that, it looks like the signs are 50 years old if there!
 
Lonesome Dove, all other westerns are pretenders.

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AMEN, brother.

I'm not a big Costner fan ("WATERWORLD," anyone?), but Duvall is my favorite actor. One of things I liked about Open Range was that the gunshots sounded pretty realisitic -- most movies they are either A-bombs or cap pistols.
 
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Oh yeah, best line in the movie: "It's locked," uttered by the shopkeeper whose place the bad guy is trying to escape into a half-second before the shopkeeper fires a shotgun at the guy.
 
Hi, Feralmerril:
Several years ago I was assigned to a Multi Agency EPA Task Force by my Agency. I was talking to one of the EPA Agents who had located an very old town that had burned down in a long ago woods fire. He had explored it with a metal detector on an off duty day as a hobby.
He had found a number of old firearms that he described as "Webley" type actions (he was not a gun guy) which I assumed as "Break Tops".
Reading your interesting posts I imaged Colt SA, S&W, Winchesters, Remingtons, etc waiting for you to discover and give them a good home.
Maybe a lost Winchester 1873 or Remington Rolling Block?
Jimmy
 
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