Ladysmith = "Girl Gun?"

[michaelinfv]

There are several excellent Lady Smith offerings old and new. There's been debate on the board as to whether they're any different save for stocks and roll marks; some are under the impression the LSs are sprung a little lighter, but there's no definitive proof of this. Having handled many and their non-LS counterparts, I think there's no difference, so best to concentrate on the firearm with the right configuration for the shooter.

That said, it seems you and your son-in-law are pushing a carry weapon on someone who doesn't want one. Given the training, mindset and responsibility required to properly carry and -- if needed -- deploy a personal defense weapon, might be better to let her make her own decisions.

There are low recoil rounds out now that really work. In a 38, 4 inch revolver on single action. Should be like firing a sling shot.

Yep. My daughter likes it. Made up some loads for both my girls. The 230 gr .451 45 acp bullet in 460 case with 9 g of HS-6
With the bullet flush with the top of 460 case. Shoots like a 22 at 900fps

i love my model 15. the k frame works for me as does the all steel construction.
9mm in a plastic gun hurts me but 38 spc in a heavy gun doesn't.
for practice she needs a 22lr, my fav round.
it's just fun.

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[shouldazagged]

That said, it seems you and your son-in-law are pushing a carry weapon on someone who doesn't want one. Given the training, mindset and responsibility required to properly carry and -- if needed -- deploy a personal defense weapon, might be better to let her make her own decisions.

This is an adult female. She'll make her own decision in any case.

That's just reality. She might find a gun she enjoys shooting, but there's no guarantee she'd carry it.

In your situation, and especially in your son-in-law's position, I'd ease up on the gas a bit.

But then I didn't see "E.T." till it had been out for twenty years because so many people (one of whom saw it in the theater seventeen times
) told me I was un-American if I didn't.

As Lyndon Johnson used to say, "I don't push worth a damn."

 

[sixtwoniner]

Guys
I think 'the handgun' is a big decision, but the 'concept and practice' of CCW as a whole is something that requires more thought for the female who wants to carry, or who YOU want to carry. I completely understand why you want your wife-daughter-girlfriend to carry, it is a dangerous world and bad things happen to good people, but it is her decision not yours, and we may not think enough like a woman to help her get where she needs to go. Try a slightly different approach, and ask the '5 why' kind of questions, and you might help her get to a place where she will be willing to carry.
Bob

My wife and my daughter shot and carry the 642. My 78 year old mother-in-law likes the 442 with the lasermax grip. They all love the way the revolvers handle, easy to shoot, safe to carry. They all carry in their purse, in a purse carry pouch made for that.At the range we practice different ways to draw from the purse. As with anyone a person must enjoy their range time as they get proficient at handling and shooting the handgun of their choice. I brewed up a very nice low velocity round (158gr RN atop 3.6gr. Unique) and keep plenty on hand.The point is empower them to make their own choices. Help them enjoy the experience.
And never forget; Shoot,Shoot, Shoot and then Shoot some more. We must all become at least proficient.

 

[Collo Rosso]

When the wife decided she wanted her CWP we talked about how she was going to carry. From the get go she wanted a CC purse. I didn't argue. It may not be ideal, but she has a gun with her. At 5' 3" and maybe 125 pounds she has problems concealing a nail clipper. She realizes the short comings of purse carry and knows her brain is her ultimate weapon. She's a tough N.Y. city girl.
As a side note, funny how the smallest person in the house has the most authority...

 

[fpuhan]

Am I the only one that's uncomfortable with the tone of this thread?

If your daughter isn't interested in carrying, then stop pushing her. The idea of her being pressured into carrying a deadly weapon that she may not be comfortable using isn't just silly—it's dangerous. You and your son-in-law may have the best of intentions, but trying to convince her (whether it's through scary "what if" scenarios, or statistics, or whatever) isn't going to be persuasive; it's simply going to push her into something that may make her incredibly uncomfortable.

This thread had its genesis as the result of my daughter being at home with my two year-old granddaughter one night, and hearing sounds in the house, the dog barking angrily and persistently, and son-in-law at work. She called me, very spooked, as she and granddaughter (who was sleeping) were "hiding in place" upstairs, not wanting to investigate.

I hurried over (it's eight miles) with flashlight, pistol and a lot of caution, and cleared the house, the back and front yards, and then, after my son-in-law had returned, debriefed.

Having a shotgun did her absolutely no good. For starters, she didn't remember where she'd put her ammunition. For another, had she actually been in a position to use it, there's a good chance she could have peppered my granddaughter's room in the process. In other words, her position wasn't really defensible.

Since then, we've discussed the virtues of having a handgun over just a shotgun. I know that the decision is hers, as is the choice of weapon. I'm only interested in learning what's available, since her exposure to my shooting collection hasn't resulted in a "winner."

 

[petepeterson]

My ladyfriend's first handgun was a 642CT. It was a good choice for a beginner, as it's pretty versatile, and I wasn't sure how interested she'd be in shooting. Her daughters had moved out, and she felt better being armed.

Fast forward a few years- she really enjoys shooting. She owns an AR (her favorite), and her HD gun is a Glock 19. It works for her, and she shoots it well.

However, she chooses not to carry a CCW. Her choice, and I don't push it. I would prefer she did, but it's something she's not comfortable with, and I respect that.

 

[3rdgeargrndrr]

I love the Ladysmiths.
Honestly keep buying guns for your wife/daughter/girlfriend. Subconciously youre only buying more guns for yourself in the end
If you can figure out what your wife/daughter/girlfriend want then I have some questions to ask you about everything.

 

[Hapworth]

This thread had its genesis as the result of my daughter being at home with my two year-old granddaughter one night, and hearing sounds in the house, the dog barking angrily and persistently, and son-in-law at work. She called me, very spooked, as she and granddaughter (who was sleeping) were "hiding in place" upstairs, not wanting to investigate.

I hurried over (it's eight miles) with flashlight, pistol and a lot of caution, and cleared the house, the back and front yards, and then, after my son-in-law had returned, debriefed.

Having a shotgun did her absolutely no good. For starters, she didn't remember where she'd put her ammunition. For another, had she actually been in a position to use it, there's a good chance she could have peppered my granddaughter's room in the process. In other words, her position wasn't really defensible.

Since then, we've discussed the virtues of having a handgun over just a shotgun. I know that the decision is hers, as is the choice of weapon. I'm only interested in learning what's available, since her exposure to my shooting collection hasn't resulted in a "winner."

Politely, the above isn't an argument for a handgun, it's an argument for hardening access to the house and using 911; she was in no way prepared for the use of any firearm for self protection irrespective of gun type.

A better first step might be to give her a copy of Ayoob's Deadly Force or the NRA's Guide to the Basics of Personal Protection in the Home, suggest she read it and decide if armed home protection is something she feels capable of learning and implementing.

If she does, odds are she'll find a suitable firearm pretty quickly thereafter because it has less to do with the "right" gun and more to do with the right frame of mind.

 

[susieqz]

hap is correct but i point out that a woman who won't shoot to protect herself will probably shoot to protect her child.