Laser sights/grips

Gene L

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I'm not a fan, and while I've handled a few, I never saw the use, especially in the J-frame S&W where they're apparently very popular. Not sure why they're needed on such a small frame, close-up gun, but I can see (I guess) on small frame autos and revolvers at extended range.

My opinion is to spend the money on practice ammo rather than an electronic sight.
 
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"...they're apparently very popular."

There are reasons for this. Where the dot goes, the bullet goes. No need to even see the gun, much less the sights.
 
I agree with Mike. We are taught to use the sights even at close ranges. That means bringing up the firearm to eye level and looking down the barrel. With a correctly sighted laser you dont have to do that and might save a few milliseconds. The trick is to get a laser that always activates as you grip the weapon. Most of my J frame CT(three different models)do not. Not a problem with the crimson trace just where they put the activation button and how I grip the j frame. And a laser that doesnt come on with you fiddling around in a emergency with the grip is worse than none at all. I might try the newer lg as it is the only one in their line that I have not used.
 
I have instructed many specialized courses specifically for Weapon mounted lasers on long guns, sub guns, semi auto pistols and yes J frames.

Weapon mounted lasers are tactically advantageous "accessories" for a competent shooter to have when understood and utilized properly.

While the greatest tactical advantage a laser offers is the ability to engage a target accurately from a position of cover that is not conducive to traditional sight alignment techniques it should also be noted that there are two key elements of the natural body alarm reaction during combat where lasers are beneficial.

The first is the individual will have both eyes open, the second is both eyes will be focused on the immediate threat as the human eye can only focus on one focal point at a time, hence the old saying "the front sight should be clear and the target should hazy".

Having the laser dot superimposed on the threat where the focus of both eyes will instinctively be creates one combined focal point to engage which is a distinct tactical advantage.

However, accurate engagement of a target with a perfectly zeroed laser only happens if the shooter is competent in regards to the basics of trigger control, sight alignment and sight picture which all lead back to iron sights.

Long story short is that lasers have advantages but do not replace the basic marksmanship skills learned with the old "reliable" iron sights that a shooter may have to rely on even with a laser present simply because iron sights don't wash out in bright sunlight or run out of battery life when "Murphy" shows up.

Weapon accessories (lights, lasers, red dots etc.) are only advantages to a shooter who is already proficient and accurate with the stock variant of the weapon they are using.

Happy 4Th stay safe
 
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I agree with Mike. We are taught to use the sights even at close ranges. That means bringing up the firearm to eye level and looking down the barrel. With a correctly sighted laser you dont have to do that and might save a few milliseconds. The trick is to get a laser that always activates as you grip the weapon. Most of my J frame CT(three different models)do not. Not a problem with the crimson trace just where they put the activation button and how I grip the j frame. And a laser that doesnt come on with you fiddling around in a emergency with the grip is worse than none at all. I might try the newer lg as it is the only one in their line that I have not used.

I never practiced at SD ranges to bring the firearm up to eye level before firing. In practice at close encounter ranges, I fire as soon as I clear the holster while bringing the gun up and continue firing until I reach shoulder level. No aiming...don't think you need to at bad breath range.

I can see the advantages you mention, but I'm an old fogey.
 
I use lasers on all my carry guns. Can't hardly hit a target without them.

I have advanced arthritis and cannot straighten my arms out or bring a weapon up to shoulder height and keep it steady. I practice shooting from a chest high or lower position. With the laser I can get baseball size groups at 8 yards with my Kimber Micro 9 and softball size groups with my S&W 340PD (38's). Good enough for me.

Although I'm fairly good at close range with the old finger point method shooting :D.
 
Probably 90% of laser purchasers do so for the wrong reasons , thinking it's a substitute for basic marksmanship skills .

Looking for the dot is slower than a flash sight picture .

It would be quite useful for shooting thru a gun port, or around a ballistic shield, but those are rather specialized situations .
 
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