Lee Turret Presses - Which is Better?

Which Lee press is better?

  • 3 Hole Press

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • 4 Hole Press

    Votes: 45 91.8%

  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
If a new reloader such as I wants to upgrade a "Lee" kit, what would you, or others, say are the BEST TWO of each type with regards to accuracy, ease of use, and value? :confused:
  • #1 and #2 Beam Balances?
  • #1 and #2 Digital scales?

I don't have much experience with different models, but quality in a beam balance comes down to mass/stability of the base, pivots, and dampening. #1 - RCBS 1010, #2 - RCBS 505 These are made by Ohaus for different companies to put their brand name on and if you look at the balance instead of the color you'll see it doesn't matter if it is RCBS, Hornady, Lyman . . . I picked up an old Lyman M5 for cheap, have been really happy with it, and haven't seen any reason to go digital. If you're patient and keep your eyes open you can find a good deal.

Enjoy!
Jeff
 
So I took the Deluxe kit back to Cabelas and had them order me the Classic.

I don't think you'll regret it. The classic turret really is a lot of press for the money, and once you have the hang of it the safety prime adds a lot to the convenience of the press. The Lee scale is generally considered to be accurate, just not much fun to use. Die sets, additional turrets, and cartridge-specific trimmer pilots can be added as you go.

Happy New Year!
Jeff
 
If a new reloader such as I wants to upgrade a "Lee" kit, what would you, or others, say are the BEST TWO of each type with regards to accuracy, ease of use, and value? :confused:
  • #1 and #2 Beam Balances?
  • #1 and #2 Digital scales?
In my limited experience, unless you are purchasing one of the automated scales that dispenses your powder for you, the cheap digital scales from various manufacturers offered by Midway and Brownells all seem to work well enough and are good bargains. Those expensive automated rigs probably deserve some research.

The cheap scales are so inexpensive you can even experiment yourself. I have two.

One is branded "Frankford Arsenal" and cost about what I sold the beam scale that came with my Lee kit for. It reads to 0.1 grains reasonably repeatably while weighing individual 30-06 powder charges for my Garand. But, it occasionally seemed to "drift" enough to make me wonder.

So, I bought the second scale on eBay that is labeled "Horizon" model "PRO-10A". It reads to 0.01 grains. That is less than a single particle of IMR 4064 and makes sneaking up on a specific charge weight easier.

I often use both scales together to check a charge on one after weighing on the other. Overkill I am sure for my Garand, but did I mention I am retired? ;)

Oh, and when shopping for cheap digital scales, limit yourself to those that include a check weight for calibration. The check weights really are essential.

However, for me, the single item that makes weighing each charge easier is not the scale used but a "Lyman Electronic Scale Powder Funnel Pan". They are cheap. So, I bought two to make life easy. Mine are both almost exactly the same tare weight, making checking charges on two scales easier.

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One final suggestion for using a digital scale: Believe it or not, they are sensitive enough that you might have to eliminate static charges. You'll know when a charge is present because the scale will drift as you move your had closer and then away. That was a "head scratcher" for me until I realized that misting the bench area with 70% rubbing alcohol from a tiny spray bottle to eliminate the static charge stopped the drifting.

In retrospect, I might not have purchased the second scale if I had understood the effects of the static charge more quickly. But, hey, having two scales is fun. The less sensitive scale can even weigh bullets or charged cases for endless fun pondering the mysteries of reloading. :o

Admittedly, my "bench" is an oak desk with a piece of plexiglass on top to provide a smooth surface. If yours is plain wood or metal topped, you may not experience this phenomenon. ;)

Best of luck, sir!
 
If you plan on using the factory crimp die and are doing pistol you need the 4 hole set. It's as easy as that.
 
+10 for the VA

OK folks, I just ordered the Lee "Classic" Turret Kit, the RCBS 505 balance beam scale and a whole bunch of goodies totaling over $2k without any powder or primers.

I hit the proverbial lotto last week, when the VA finally acknowledged my disability after +40yr of struggling on my own. Got a nice depo$it, plates and a monthly. Don't want to harp on this but I am FINALLY relieved and financially solvent. Nuf' said... I can now get started reloading my own!... :D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Nearly Off To the Races!

Hooray! HMike is now a reloader!
And I guess I was wrong. It didn't cost $1k...:cool:
Sgt Lumpy

Actually that $1k is about right if you don't count the brass, powder, primers, and bullets. I did take the advice to have a "significant investment" in the latter, in order to actually minimize the overall cost per round.

I estimate that I will have enough for ~3,000 rd of .357 and 3,000rd of .222 for an investment of ~$2,800. And still have 1,000 .222 bullets in stock. By my best guesses,... that is about 46-cents/round for each caliber VS buying ammo at $80-cents(.357) and $1.25/round(.222).

I'll spend that $2,800 for reloads over the $6,150 for the equal amount commercial ammo anytime! :D

BTW, Went to the range this past weekend and only got to shoot only one box of .222,... No .357 and No 22LR because the range was too crowded with waiting lines. Anyway, the one box of commercial .222 was giving me groups of greater than 6-8in at 200yards. Then I got antsy and pulled a couple of (~1960) reload rounds and shot them. One was dead center and the other was less than an inch from DC at 200yd! I was very cautious of these rounds because the loads written on them were "21gr IMR4198 50 Lovell" bullet. Current load charts are showing Max loading at just 20.5gr for IMR4198. I could not believe how straight these things flew! I still have two full boxes of these 50yr old reloads left!

Did notice the rounds are now kind of tacky and need to be wiped down. I think the old lube on them got gunky or something. I am assuming a rag dampened with Hoppes9 should do the trick, right?
 

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I have been loading on a Lee three hole turret press for over....aw heck! I don't know how many years, at least 20. Anyhow I've loaded thousands of pistol and rifle rounds on it. At one point I bought a conversion kit to make it into a four holer. Them parts are still sitting unused in a box. When I began loading with the three hole turret that was all that was available. If they had made a four hole at the time I'd have bought it.
I recommend that you buy a four holer having never used one myself. That is because the four hole gives you more room to fit your dies in and is more versatile if you ever use 4 dies as I do with my RCBS progressive press. Decapper/resizing die, case mouth flare die, powder drop die bullet seating die and lastly, a crimp die.
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Did notice the rounds are now kind of tacky and need to be wiped down. I think the old lube on them got gunky or something. I am assuming a rag dampened with Hoppes9 should do the trick, right?

Not sure. I'm not sure I'd use Hoppe's. I'd want something that evaporates pretty quickly. Maybe Naptha. Oil getting into the case would be the concern. Really old rounds might have tired sealant. The Hoppe's might seep in.

On reloading: Glad you came into the money to get the stuff you need. And that you got something that will allow you to make a few rounds instead of something like a hand press.


Sgt Lumpy
 
Not sure. I'm not sure I'd use Hoppe's. I'd want something that evaporates pretty quickly. Maybe Naptha. Oil getting into the case would be the concern. Really old rounds might have tired sealant. The Hoppe's might seep in.

+1
. . . there is probably some rubbing alcohol in medicine cabinet that would be a better choice than Hoppe's.
 
Cleaning old rounds

Not sure. I'm not sure I'd use Hoppe's. I'd want something that evaporates pretty quickly. Maybe Naptha. Oil getting into the case would be the concern. Really old rounds might have tired sealant. The Hoppe's might seep in...
Sgt Lumpy

Got it. I'll use naptha on a damp rag and not wipe above the top of the brass,... one at a time.
 
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