Let's ask S&W boycott NYS/NYC?

[df53141]

We ask them to stop doing business with NYC and NYS governments, that means any sales (using tax dollar) will not happen in the future (contracted sales continue as planned), at the same time, we refrain from asking them to stop business with CA, IL, and CPD (Chicago Police), by focusing exclusively on Cuomo/Bloomberg, we send these crooks a strong message!

Once again, let's refraining from asking S&W to boycott other entities, despite they are just as bad, thus by focusing only on NYS/NYC (likely to be less than 5% of their total business), it will be easier for one big guy (such as S&W) to stomach the loss of their business, it is unrealistic to boycott Illinois, California, NJ, Colorado simultaneously, since NYS/NYC are the most egregious, they should be punished!

Please spread my message around and hoping for your support! Once S&W yileld to our request, we will ask Beretta, Ruger, Glock to do the same with NYS/NYC, also add major retailer and ammo manufacturers on the list!

 

[venomballistics]

I'd LOVE to see it happen.
I am not holding my breath though.
Colt, S&W, Kimber, Ruger, Remington and other US based players might get the idea since its in their back yard ... Glock Berreta, HK and other interests abroad .... nope .. they won't play so easily

 

[jtpur]

Ok, I am asking.

 

[df53141]

I'd LOVE to see it happen.
I am not holding my breath though.
Colt, S&W, Kimber, Ruger, Remington and other US based players might get the idea since its in their back yard ... Glock Berreta, HK and other interests abroad .... nope .. they won't play so easily

Let's face it, all of them are nothing but business. If Glock does not join, we boycott them and have their civilian sales drop by 35%, then they will learn the lesson. Of course all of us must unite in a firm and coherent way! We must get a big boy to join in first, and that has to be S&W. I think H&K will not boycott under any circumstances, even if Cuomo shot 1,000 New Yorkers for refusing to give up their 2A!

 

[boat770]

Great idea.

 

[ladder13]

Just out of curiosity, what state do you live in?

 

[df53141]

Just out of curiosity, what state do you live in?

Why you ask? definitely not in NYS and I will never go there out of my own desire, never!!! I have no bad feeling about the state itself, but it is one of the worst state (exorbitant tax, etc), much the way like the Soviet!

 

[ladder13]

Why you ask? definitely not in NYS and I will never go there out of my own desire, never!!! I have no bad feeling about the state itself, but it is one of the worst state (exorbitant tax, etc), much the way like the Soviet!

Well, if you're so proud of where you live what's the problem?
Seems like you've been there at least once, you seem to have intimate knowledge.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/2nd-am...-toughest-gun-control-laws.html#post136898886

 

[sarge1967]

Many manufactures and retailers have adopted this policy but they are small companies. I just read that Barrett has decided not to sell to NY just yesterday. The letter from Ronnie Barrett was scathing. We do need to have the large US manufactures like S&W, Ruger, Colt do the same. The foreign ones like H&K, Glock, and Sig probably won't but like someone said above we can always not buy their products. We must all stand together on this. These Leftist idiots will not stop unless they get hit hard. This is just one way to do that.

 

[venomballistics]

Many manufactures and retailers have adopted this policy but they are small companies. I just read that Barrett has decided not to sell to NY just yesterday. The letter from Ronnie Barrett was scathing. We do need to have the large US manufactures like S&W, Ruger, Colt do the same. The foreign ones like H&K, Glock, and Sig probably won't but like someone said above we can always not buy their products. We must all stand together on this. These Leftist idiots will not stop unless they get hit hard. This is just one way to do that.

I like to think that Ronnie Barrett is the inspiration of all who have ended sales to less than constitutional states.
I believe he's had California cut off since they pitched a fit back in the 90's

 

[venomballistics]

I have a better idea ...
the way it seems to be heading, some states are poised to throw off constitutionality while many other embrace it.
those that embrace it often times have the right kind of folks for this kind of operation.
there are those in NY, CA Mass CT and elsewhere that probably wouldnt mind getting out of Dodge before the hammer drops on them.
You know ... the hard working tax paying kind who have earned something other than what these places will ultimately do to them.
Lets figure out a few ways of getting them out to the free states.
Lines on homes, jobs, perhaps some transport assistance if we can do so.
Ask only that they do the same for another left behind enemy lines.
if we can manage to liberate enough of these fellow Americans, the commie states, in theory, will be left with precious little in the way of a tax base, and a welfare drain that'd be economically devastating.
If we are REALLY good, we might just be able to get the gun industry giants like S&W, Colt, and others to follow the skilled labor pool we helped evacuate, liberating them from the rule of those states that seem to have some sort of stranglehold on them.

 

[stumper]

If all of the US manufacturers were to cease selling arms and ammo to the state governments that restrict the rights of their citizens (which I'd love to see them do - along with the non military federal branches) would we, the enthusists in the free states, stop buying foreign made guns and ammo to to help our US companies offset the loss revenue?? I know I would since there are no foreign made guns that interest me but what about all of the Glock and Sig people??

 

[Waywatcher]

These Leftist idiots will not stop unless they get hit hard. This is just one way to do that.

Calling people "leftist idiots" is not helpful, and it also makes the name caller lose credibility. The stereotype also doesn't hold.

Prime examples:
My parents are anti gun republicans.
My house representative is a pro gun democrat.

Republicans lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections, and only held the house this time through gerrymandering. Nationwide, house Democrats received a grand sum total more votes than house republicans.

Limiting ourselves to only pro gun "rightists" is a sure fire way to lose in the long run.

 

[sarge1967]

Calling people "leftist idiots" is not helpful, and it also makes the name caller lose credibility. The stereotype also doesn't hold.

Prime examples:
My parents are anti gun republicans.
My house representative is a pro gun democrat.

Republicans lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections, and only held the house this time through gerrymandering. Nationwide, house Democrats received a grand sum total more votes than house republicans.

Limiting ourselves to only pro gun "rightists" is a sure fire way to lose in the long run.

Perhaps I should rephrase and say Communists. "If it quacks like a duck....."

 

[Waywatcher]

Perhaps I should rephrase and say Communists. "If it quacks like a duck....."

I have a feeling you are using the term as a pejorative, since they are not bona fide communists.

Pejorative name calling is not helpful to our cause; it diminishes our credibility.

 

[venomballistics]

I have a feeling you are using the term as a pejorative, since they are not bona fide communists.

Pejorative name calling is not helpful to our cause; it diminishes our credibility.

nah .. it calls them out for what they really are.
if you think you can reason with them, your delusional.
no part of the gun grabbers actions point to reason. What makes you think reason would be invoked through discussion?
you might be able to get them to play nice at the discussion table, but at the end of the day, they STILL support the anti gun agenda.
the answer is to run em over with the biggest truck you can hot wire and park on em.
they are evil and the only known cure for evil is to kill it

 

[Waywatcher]

nah .. it calls them out for what they really are.
if you think you can reason with them, your delusional.
no part of the gun grabbers actions point to reason. What makes you think reason would be invoked through discussion?
you might be able to get them to play nice at the discussion table, but at the end of the day, they STILL support the anti gun agenda.
the answer is to run em over with the biggest truck you can hot wire and park on em.
they are evil and the only known cure for evil is to kill it

If you truly believe that discussion cannot change minds, wouldn't participating in an online gun forum be an exercise in fruitless frustration?

Calling the other side "idiots, liberal morons, communists," or any other pejorative term is going to make their opposition a self fulfilling prophecy. If they were on the fence or remotely undecided, then insulting them, calling them something untrue, and calling them evil is surely going to work against our interests as it will close their ears and minds to further discussion, and steel them against us.

 

[df53141]

Guys, let's focus on the boycott, OK?

We really need just one big guy such as S&W to boycott NYS, then the whole community will be energized, let's start doing it, S&W should realize that we are their bread&butter, and NYS, etc are their enemies also!

 

[venomballistics]

If you truly believe that discussion cannot change minds, wouldn't participating in an online gun forum be an exercise in fruitless frustration?

Calling the other side "idiots, liberal morons, communists," or any other pejorative term is going to make their opposition a self fulfilling prophecy. If they were on the fence or remotely undecided, then insulting them, calling them something untrue, and calling them evil is surely going to work against our interests as it will close their ears and minds to further discussion, and steel them against us.

Im thinking it was a safe bet that Andy Cuomo was informed that his new laws were unconstitutional, unpopular amongst the citizen population, and ran a risk of armed uprising.
didn't matter .. he did it anyhow.
its the equivalent of him thrusting a knife into our guts.
all a debate is now is the equivalent of begging him not to twist it.
I'm not too interested in winning this, or any debate. these are just small battles in a much larger theater of operation.
what I am concerned with it winning that war.
fight their kind with an end result.
show em a law where they get shot for treason for enacting unconstitutional laws ... let em choke on it.

 

[CoMF]

Perhaps I should rephrase and say Communists. "If it quacks like a duck....."

I hate to play the "rules" card, but you really need to pay heed to the Gorilla...

nah .. it calls them out for what they really are.
if you think you can reason with them, your delusional.

Poppycock. By being a good ambassador of the firearms owning community, I've succeeded in transforming my wife's pathological hatred of firearms into an understanding of them, and she now agrees that it can be fun to own one. I should know... She comandeered my Colt!

I've also earned the respect of my "left-leaning" colleagues, one of whom went so far as to give me her permission to use as a character reference when I renewed my LTCF.