Let's see your U.S. Model 1917 S&Ws!

Lee,

I sure need a box of those .45's in the moon clips for my display if you run across one (either style--or both) please let me know.

Thanks,
Bob
 
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Please , I beg of thee , I must know who made those grips and where to get me a set or two!
 
Thaanks Gil! I simply cannot shoot my 1917 with the original stocks , and later Magnas are too 'square'. A friend has a similar set from Eagle and they feel much better.
 
I've shown this modified Model 1917 before. I purchased it from the now 80 year old son of a Detroit Police Department, homicide leuitenant, that was on the force from 1928 - 1953. Supposedly the modifications were done by a friend of his on the department by the name of Lew Sanderson. The grip frame was modified to accept the semi round but service stocks or the Sanderson's. The barrel shortened to 3 1/2" and a elevation adjustable front sight and windage rear sight. The holster pictured is a modified 1917 gov't issue that was carried by the leuitenant. The gentleman that I purchased this revolver had no children and wanted to sell it to someone that would appreciate it's history. Greg
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I just picked up a 1917 (sn: 1269XX) a few minutes ago. I'll look in the big book when I get home for a production date. Edit: SCSW no real help on date of manufacture. Anyone have more info?

It is a well done reblue with a set of diamond S&W medalion grips on it.

Looking forward to shooting it this evening.
Dave
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terry,

The picture looks like your "new" 1917 doesn't have the much dreaded lock. Is that true and does it only apply to that particular "dash" model?

Dave

PS: Found the answer to my own question. It is a pre-lock.
 
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Bought this 1917 a year ago. According to the proof marks (the crossed flags, I am told), this either went to the British or Canadian military under Lend Lease. I'm guessing that this was initially chambered for the .455 MkII round and later converted for .45ACP.

The new barrel is a .45 Colt CTG and the gun shoots .45 ACP nicely.

I am currently looking into converting this into .45 Colt. It's not clear to me if I can simply have the cylinder reamed or if I must find a new cylinder/crane.

It's certainly an ugly duckling, but it's a lovely little ugly duckling.
 

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Dingotech,

Have you removed the grips yet? Is this revolver stamped "U.S. ARMY MODEL 1917" on the butt?

You have a M25-5 barrel and what appears to be a Wondersight for a rear sight. If your cylinder currently chambers .45 ACP, you will have to find a .455 cylinder and have it rechambered to .45 Colt. That will be expensive to have it fitted correctly.

If I were you, I'd stick with what you have. Also, a rechambered cylinder will be kinda short for some .45 Colt reloads.
 
You have a M25-5 barrel and what appears to be a Wondersight for a rear sight. If your cylinder currently chambers .45 ACP, you will have to find a .455 cylinder and have it rechambered to .45 Colt. That will be expensive to have it fitted correctly.

If I were you, I'd stick with what you have. Also, a rechambered cylinder will be kinda short for some .45 Colt reloads.

Thank you for the input. Much appreciated. I was discussing this earlier with my smith and he voiced similar concerns regarding the cylinder and trying to re-chamber the gun.

There aren't any US gov. markings on the frame. The butt has the serial number: 47XXX. The lanyard loop thingy was ground off.

Just removed the grips and I can add the following. Covered by the upper portion of the left grip scale is an interesting stamp, or set of stamps- from a distance it looks like Japanese characters, but they're not.

At the bottom is the number "11", above that, a small "E", and above that is what appears to be a "U6" and yet above that is what seems to be an " '3 " that is perpendicularly arranged relative to the other characters and, finally, well above everything else is a winged-like symbol.

I'm not certain that I can take a good picture of this, but that ring any bells?
 
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I bought this refinished 1917 as a shooter, but when I put a few cylinders-full downrange with the service stocks I found it so unpleasant I put it back in the safe and pretty much forgot about it.

A couple of weeks ago I came across some Pachmayr grippers of the right size for very little dough. I put them on and what a difference they made. I got some Rimz full moon clips and now its a regular shooter. Its dead on with 230 grain factory ball.
 
Dingotech,

Your revolver started life as a .455 Mark II Hand Ejector 2nd Model and was built for the British or Canadians in WW I. It was obviously rechambered to .45 ACP, which was much easier to find in the US. Avoid shooting the hotter +P .45 ACP ammo in your old gun.

Enjoy.
 
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For you that are looking I will have a 95% 1917 and a 75% Brazilian 2nd batch (1945) for sale in Tulsa. Also a correctly marked Holster, web belt ( cavalry model with D ring attachment for saber, marked with vets name and address issued to inside of belt) and 6 pack ammo carrier.
Don't have a table but will check with guys in the SW area. Will be carrying a back pack with sale sign.

Will be there late Friday and all day Saturday, 936-661-6156 is a good contact number.

Buffalo (Mike Faires) Nichols

Here are the 2 in question first is the 1917 second is the Brazilian
 

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