Let's talk flaming bomb stamp on butt

[Skeetr57]

I have been involved with a number of GOCO plants, and all I know about had a military commander with a small civilian staff. Those staff members were Army civilian employees who specialized in procurement and quality control. The inspectors would have been part of the quality control staff.

 

[les.b]

I just bought the Pate book.... Abebooks had it for $45.00.

I have dealt with them for many years, and they sometimes have real bargains, and a source of good used books as well as new ones.

Thanks guys for the tip. I am always adding to my small library of gun related books.

Sorry for the thread drift, tenntex,.....

Best Regards, Les

 

[nachogrande]

LET'S TALK BUTT BOMBS.

LET'S NOT! TODAY being my wife's birthday, NOT TOMMOROW like I thought, I'm in enough hot water already.

 

[tenntex32]

I just bought the Pate book.... Abebooks had it for $45.00.

I have dealt with them for many years, and they sometimes have real bargains, and a source of good used books as well as new ones.

Thanks guys for the tip. I am always adding to my small library of gun related books.

Sorry for the thread drift, tenntex,.....

Best Regards, Les

Les,

Just mail me that book and all will be forgiven.

Dale

 

[Absalom]

I just bought the Pate book.... .

Best Regards, Les

Good

Read through the chapter on the ordnance inspection process and markings and see what exactly Pate says! It may be a few days before I can get to mine.

 

[ordnanceguy]

...in layman terms what does the hand stamped flaming ordnance bomb found on the butt actually signify on Victory models? (Or the "accepted" signification amongst more astute collectors anyways.) Thanks, Dale

Dale:

When located on the butt of the Victory revolver, the so-called "flaming bomb" signifies the inspection and acceptance of the weapon.

BTW, the proper appellation for the flaming bomb symbol is the "Shell and Flame insignia" of the Ordnance Department.

HTH.

 

[Absalom]

Dale:

When located on the butt of the Victory revolver, the so-called "flaming bomb" signifies the inspection and acceptance of the weapon.
...

So Charlie, is there an explanation why the US Maritime and DSC guns were inspected and accepted (and P-proofed) by Ordnance? Was this a step that simply all US Gov't processed guns (which those were too, even if they ended up with civilian end users) underwent?

 

[tenntex32]

So who would typically be the user of a 4" .38spl Victory with "U.S. PROPERTY G.H.D" on the topstrap but not having a flaming bomb on the butt?

(DSC guns would typically not have markings on the topstrap, and most likely no flaming bombs on the butt...…….yes?)

Dale

 

[tenntex32]

Ok, which one of you admin goobers "fixed" my thread title, hmmmmm?



Dale

 

[BC38]

Dude, don't feel bad.
They also deleted the jokes some of us made about the original title.

 

[tenntex32]

I guess we had it coming then, as I had even made a joke as well.

Dale

 

[Jaymo]

Y'all know it would've been a great name for the latest, greatest, designer/genetically modified "hottest pepper in the world"

Anyhoo, I gotta look at my pre-Victory again.
I don't think it has the ordnance stamp.
The more I think about it, the more I think I should get mine lettered.
I'd love to know more about it than just the fact that I got it for a good price.
Oh, and that it had some horrid aftermarket stocks when I bought it.
I think they were Franzite? Franz Ferdinand? Dennis Franz?
Something like that.
They were very warped. They were as crooked as a polit-er, nope. Can't say that.
They were as crooked as a really crooked thing.
And, the strain screw was so loose that the fun store couldn't cock it.
I got it for a good price because it was "broken". (Franzite stocks covered the entire grip frame. Strain screw not visible)
Took it home. Replaced stocks with correct stocks. Tightened strain screw. Installed correct lanyard loop/bootay swivel. (not in that order)
Works perfectly. Laughed like maniac.

 

[DWalt]

I believe the flaming bomb stamps were applied to most Victories no matter where they were headed. Whoever was applying that stamp probably didn't care. I also believe that the stamp was probably not used prior to the U. S. Army Ordnance Department's involvement in production, likely not until after Pearl Harbor. Franzite plastic grips were popular in the 1950s-60s and they did warp. I have straightened out a number of warped Franzite panels by heating them over a hot electric range burner.

 

[Jaymo]

I believe the flaming bomb stamps were applied to most Victories no matter where they were headed. Whoever was applying that stamp probably didn't care. I also believe that the stamp was probably not used prior to the U. S. Army Ordnance Department's involvement in production, likely not until after Pearl Harbor. Franzite plastic grips were popular in the 1950s-60s and they did warp. I have straightened out a number of warped Franzite panels by heating them over a hot electric range burner.

I may just have to give that a try.
IIRC, mine are shaped somewhat like Smith target stocks, and made to kinda/sorta look like stag.
I believe the maker's name is molded on the inside of the stocks.

Given the age, am I correct in guessing that they are celluloid?

 

[stansdds]

Ok, which one of you admin goobers "fixed" my thread title, hmmmmm?



Dale

I thought the original title was creative.

 

[OFT II]

I thought the original title was creative.

Well, it certainly caught your eye.

 

[Absalom]

I thought the original title was creative.

Well, it certainly caught your eye.

So, should I take the fact that, with the original title, I immediately thought of the right context only and never saw any joke, as a warning that I spend too much time on wartime guns?

Or do I just need more beer?

 

[DWalt]

I may just have to give that a try.
IIRC, mine are shaped somewhat like Smith target stocks, and made to kinda/sorta look like stag.
I believe the maker's name is molded on the inside of the stocks.

Given the age, am I correct in guessing that they are celluloid?

I don't know, probably polystyrene. Definitely a thermoplastic, not celluloid.

 

[stansdds]

So, should I take the fact that, with the original title, I immediately thought of the right context only and never saw any joke, as a warning that I spend too much time on wartime guns?

Or do I just need more beer?

More beer.

 

[les.b]

My copy of the Pate book came yesterday, but I haven't had much time to look anything up yet.....

I am impressed by the scope of the work, though, and am happy to add it to my library.

Best Regards, Les