Let's talk Turkey....as in made in Turkey

My issue guns were Glock for years. I have 3 Canik TP series guns. I shoot a lot. At least, sometimes twice a week. My point being this is not based on a couple hundred rounds and how photogenic they are for sexy forum post pictures. Round counts in the multiple thousands.

I would not be at all concerned if I was told I had to carry any one of the 3 as my duty weapon. Performance wise they are the equal and in some ways superior to any Glock I have ever owned or been issued. I have $350 or less in each one. I originally picked up the first one used as a loaner range gun and it turned out to be a solid performer. The second was used, and the 3rd was new.

I have two MKE MP5 clones that have been rock solid, also through thousands of rounds.
 
The Tisas 1911s have been good to me, too. I can say the same about the Yildiz side-by-side and O/U shotguns sold by Academy.
I had a customer bring a Yildiz OU SG with the forearm lug detached from the barrels. After a 6 months of Academy jerking him and I around the gun was never fixed, Academy responded "sorry about that, tough ****". In another case of a Turkish firearm, no parts available after a 6 month wait for firing pins. My opinion, enjoy the low cost, but if it breaks, it is disposable.
 
That's interesting, SAS. I thought Briley had the contract to do all the Yildiz warranty work. I have had the side-by sides in .410 and 28, and an O/U in .410. Never an issue. Still need to shoot some skeet with the as-yet unfired 28 O/U. I would never compare them to a much higher end gun like a Beretta, but there are some threads in the Yildiz forum at Shotgunworld about impressive round counts.
 
I have a Girsan 1911 Commander sized pistol, and I'm seriously thinking about taking it to a gun shop and taking whatever they'll give me in trade. I have put about 1K rounds through it and 9 times out of 10 it will fail to go through a full magazine without jamming. I obviously can't speak to the brand as a whole, but would hesitate to buy another one.
My CS45 and 457 do the same job with 100% reliability.
I have heard of some people doing a spring swap to fix inconsistencies.
 
I've never fired a Canik. I see students showing up to class with them - CCW class, that is. Most of the time they're new, never fired. The seem to work for at least the 25-50 rounds required. I've only seen one having issues. That was from the owner bringing .380 instead of 9mm and it just wouldn't function anyway other than single shot. A proper box of ammo fixed that. But my concern is in the event of any import concerns, how easy will it be to find parts?
 
That's interesting, SAS. I thought Briley had the contract to do all the Yildiz warranty work. I have had the side-by sides in .410 and 28, and an O/U in .410. Never an issue. Still need to shoot some skeet with the as-yet unfired 28 O/U. I would never compare them to a much higher end gun like a Beretta, but there are some threads in the Yildiz forum at Shotgunworld about impressive round counts.
You are correct, the gun was sent to Briley first, they had no way of fixing/silver soldering the lug back in position without damaging the integrity of the entire assembly. These barrels had a soft soldered vent rib, the barrels are soft soldered into the mono block. Briley doesn't have a fixture to locate the lug precise enough. My thoughts to prevent complete destruction of the barrels would have been to put a resistance electrode inside of the barrel at the location of lug and heat that spot momentarily while the rest of the assembly is submerged in a water bath.
 
Stay away from Akkar shotguns. A kid messed one up and I fixed it and I bought it off of him becausIe I wanted a pump gun. They are cheap and LIGHT. Shooting anything more than light loads is a BEAR. I shot a 3" shell out of it......ONCE.:oops:
 
Here are MY 9mm Stainless Turkish Clones of CZ-75B & Hi-Power.
Sarsilmas 2000, & Tisas Regent Hi power. I could own them - because they were very affordable.
A couple of my best purchases - they are wonderful, & do everything right, + STAINLESS !
 

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I think the Turks make some great guns. However, I don't want to help grow an arms industry that is likely to be used against us or our friends later down the road. I shouldn't need to note that they are current allies and members of NATO. I don't think my comment is political. I don't care what their politics are but I'm very concerned about their future actions.
 
Broad-brushing all Turkish manufacturers as good or bad is like asserting that all American guns are of the quality of SCCY, Jimenez or Lorcin, or Nighthawk/Korth at the other end.

Turkey, in general, has greatly developed their manufacturing capabilities. Some took advantage of this for quality, others for speed.

In general, this was helped by lower prices due to the exchange rate with the Lira and lack of tarriffs, so for good manufacturers price/quality was a strong ratio.
 
My experience has been all positive with my Turkish Hi Power clone: Centurion 14. Fit, finish, accuracy, and the trigger has smoothed out wonderfully after several hundred rounds - has all been 100%. It easily matches my 1961 Argentine Police Hi Power in all areas.
One issue with a loose front sight was easily corrected. All for 1/3 the price of a used Hi Power - and with a guarantee to boot. I am considering a Turkish 1911 to the stable. My two...
 
Here are MY 9mm Stainless Turkish Clones of CZ-75B & Hi-Power.
Sarsilmas 2000, & Tisas Regent Hi power. I could own them - because they were very affordable.
A couple of my best purchases - they are wonderful, & do everything right, + STAINLESS !
Just ordered one of those, Sars 2000, cheap from Palmetto, $300 on sale last week. Get it Monday,
 
I bought a Rock Island Armory (RIA) single shot 20 gauge, made in Turkey.

I had to send it back twice to Rock Island because it would not reliably ignite primers. The second time I sent it back they sent me a new one. The new one works fine.

It's a handy little "survival" type gun. Very small and light. I'd never give it to a kid to use - unless you have reason to punish the little tyke. o_O Recoil from that gun is brutal.
 
While I much prefer buying American made firearms, there are at times people are given little choice. I don't own any Turkish firearms but I do own a coveted CZ 453 American 22RF rifle with a Turkish Walnut stock. The walnut is very nice indeed! I own the CZ and a few Belgium Browning shotguns, - all others are USA made. That said, I can fully understand why some would buy the Tisas being a descent pistol for the low price.

I have watched reviews on Turkish manufactured 1911's and it seems no one has any major complaints about them. That said, Colt is my go-to 1911 maker.
 

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