squidsix
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Ebay has lots of them. Reproductions but really well made. And yes, i fou d the williams sight for less than $20 on the shelf locally
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Ebay has lots of them. Reproductions but really well made. And yes, i fou d the williams sight for less than $20 on the shelf locally
The "peep" sights are really two kinds. A sight you are going to lock in and
leave alone or one that you are going to use to adjust your point of aim in
the field. It doesn't matter whether it's a Tang, reciever or barrel mount.
I'm not crazy about barrel mounted peeps, nor tangs for hunting. I like
the sight in reciever position. This can be ghost ring or micro click reciever sight. Williams makes many sight bases that are compatible to mount on
back scope mount holes on most popular rifles. I have them for Rem 742 & Ruger 10/22. This series allows you the choice of using a selection of rear sight blades or the option of peep insert. They are threaded to accept
standard US aperatures. I have had them on Marlin LA rifles and like them
because they are compact and adjust on sliding wedge locked with screw.
The price is reasonable, usually less than half the cost of similar sights. As
far as shooting these are all the same. They are nothing but a mount to hold an aperature in a permenent position. They aren't a precision piece
of equippment like a click adjustable reciever sight. I think the Williams line is looked over because of hype over other brands.
leave alone or one that you are going to use to adjust your point of aim in
the field. It doesn't matter whether it's a Tang, reciever or barrel mount.
I'm not crazy about barrel mounted peeps, nor tangs for hunting. I like
the sight in reciever position. This can be ghost ring or micro click reciever sight. Williams makes many sight bases that are compatible to mount on
back scope mount holes on most popular rifles. I have them for Rem 742 & Ruger 10/22. This series allows you the choice of using a selection of rear sight blades or the option of peep insert. They are threaded to accept
standard US aperatures. I have had them on Marlin LA rifles and like them
because they are compact and adjust on sliding wedge locked with screw.
The price is reasonable, usually less than half the cost of similar sights. As
far as shooting these are all the same. They are nothing but a mount to hold an aperature in a permenent position. They aren't a precision piece
of equippment like a click adjustable reciever sight. I think the Williams line is looked over because of hype over other brands.
p8riot
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One thing to consider about Marlin 44 lever guns is that they have a slow twist rate of 1:38, which is fine if you are not shooting bullets of 300gr or more. It just does not stabilize the heavier bullets as well as a Winchester or other rifles with twist rates of around 1:20 or better.
I had a Henry .22. Lots of fun and very accurate. Used it to teach my kids to shoot.
But to me the tube loading seems like the weak link.
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Still don't see where I would be topping off rounds during a hunt on a rifle that holds 10+ rounds. As for the "Henry is ugly" thing, just don't buy the one with the mirror finish. ;-)
All true...... IIRC the original Civil War era "Henry" was tube fed w/out a "side loading gate"....... so in the 1800s the later Winchesters with the ability to "top off" must have been considered an improvement.
Course they weren't just used for "Deer" hunting back then!
Kind of the original assault rifle of it's day......IIRC carried by some officers and............. those other guys at the Little Big Horn in 1877(?)
If you are going to scope a gun, get the Marlin and I've heard the guns that have been manufactured in the last 6 months are a lot better than the last couple of years. Of course an older Marlin should be excellent as well, but for an iron sight gun I love my Rossi M92 20" barrel .357 rifle. I shoot .38s in it 95% of the time and everyone who shoots it really likes it, even the really young guys that you would think only like high capacity semi-autos. I was with several guys from church at our deer lease in the mountains where we have a gun range with some old steel skillets hanging up about 80 yards away. Guys that hardly ever shoot a gun were ringing the steel with regularity with my little Rossi and everyone had a big smile on their face when they finished shooting it.
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Got to agree with this 100%. Unless the zombies rise or the critters from the Alien movies drop in, I see no circumstance to complain about the time it takes to load a lever gun.
All true...... IIRC the original Civil War era "Henry" was tube fed w/out a "side loading gate"....... so in the 1800s the later Winchesters with the ability to "top off" must have been considered an improvement.
Course they weren't just used for "Deer" hunting back then!
Kind of the original assault rifle of it's day......IIRC carried by some officers and............. those other guys at the Little Big Horn in 1877(?)
The original Henry from 1861-1866 loaded at the end of the tube, having an open tube with an exposed follower. The weaknesses were obvious, but considering the alternatives were muzzle loading single shots or the seven shot Spencer that loaded through a tube in the buttstock, it was light years ahead. However, when the 1866 Winchester came out with the loading gate, there was no looking back.
Not having owned either make in .357Mag (but wanting to) I would go with Henry unless you can find an older Marlin. I keep hearing that the new Marlins just ain't what they used to be.
I think the idea of having a rifle/pistol combo of the same caliber using a self containing ammo system and as reliable as the lever action/revolver platforms are can have certain advantages and is widely overlooked by most survivalist/prepper types.
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There are those, that keep saying that, as if nothing has changed in ten years or so, since Remington took over. Thing is, it's not accurate. I bought my first Remington made Marlin in early 2017. I did so, because I wanted a side loader, and happened to notice, that many of the defects I had seen or read about with earlier models, just didn't exist on this one.
Note: My rifle is a 45/70. I bought a Henry 45/70 after that, and then followed with a Marlin 30-30 stainless steel, just because the first Marlin 45/70 worked out so well. I do not know, how well the .357's have worked out functional wise. My two rifles, along with the Henry, never miss a beat, when it comes to loading, firing, and ejecting.
Looking at the newer Marlins in the last six months, I noticed that they've also improved the rounded edges in the forestock, with a longer radius, which is more like the older JM models. They did an excellent job with the metal to wood fit on mine, but the ends are not as rounded.
I'm with you on this one. So much so that I have lever guns in 38/357 and 44, as well as semi-auto carbines in 9mm and 45acp.
A carbine to match and share ammo with your sidearm is a beautiful thing.
How does your lever gun handle .44spl? I've heard that they have no problem feeding .44Mag but the shorter .44spl is not as reliable.
I've been looking into getting a .44spl./.44Mag SS all weather Henry lever gun to pair up with a SS Charter Arms Bulldog revolver. They look like they would match quite nicely.
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Both my lever guns are Rossi M92's and the 44 seems to handle the 44 specials just as well as the 357 handles the 38 specials.
Though to be honest I haven't shot a ton of the specials through either gun.
For a rifle I prefer the power of magnums. I have a couple of 44 mag sidearms to choose from as well as a Bulldog and a Pre-24.
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Please tell me they're making blued and walnuts too? Sorry but a stainless tacticool lever is just wrong!!
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I do not know date of manf. But the Marlin 336 i 30-30. I held the other day. Had crappy ugly rough and seems to me to be pourous matte finish, the barrel band and forearm was loose and the end of the birch forearm was not stained or finished in any way. Just ready to wick and swell with moisture and put pressure on barrel band and mess up accuracy.
If that new 336 is representative of current quality there is no way I would buy anything modern. They did also have a walnut 1894 in 45-70 with traditional blue steel and it was very nice. Almost like the pre-Remington as best I could tell.
If that new 336 is representative of current quality there is no way I would buy anything modern. They did also have a walnut 1894 in 45-70 with traditional blue steel and it was very nice. Almost like the pre-Remington as best I could tell.
500SNW
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Add one more vote for the Rossi 1892, preferably the 20" stainless version. At around $500 there's no better bargain. As for Henry and Marlin...it is a case of "Ford vs. Chevy" and people here will continually argue why each is their favorite. IMHO both are overpriced for what you get quality and materials wise. I already own one factory-stock Rossi 92 and I plan on buying another for tinkering with ie. refinishing the wood, adding new sights and polishing/tuning the action.
p8riot
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Just won this. Seems like a decent price for a pre-safety carbine. Think I'll refinish the stock though.
ROSSI Model 92 SRS Interarms .38 SPL-.357 MAG - Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 791451503
ROSSI Model 92 SRS Interarms .38 SPL-.357 MAG - Lever Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 791451503
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