Little help on ship date and model

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Hi all
I believe the two are new departures.
Both are 38 S&W caliber.
My friend bought the guns can anyone help with a ship date? Serial numbers 251736 & 167012.
Also are the grips correct ?
Thank you
Mike
 

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Stocks look correct for the eras the revolvers were made. Walnut concaves stocks are from the 1920s and the hard rubber stocks were available throughout production of the Safety revolver. 167012 shipped around 1903 and 251736 shipped maybe 1924. Guns were shipped out of serial number order so either one could have left the factory a year or so before or after. Only a factory letter will tell for sure.

You should make sure your friend knows that both those Safeties are considered as modern firearms by the BATF, so are subject to all regulations of both Federal and state laws.

Forgot to add that the proper name for the revolver is 38 Safety, 4th Model and 38 Safety, 5th Model respectively. The company also called them 38 New Departures.
 
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Picture is too small to see attributes but by the serial number, they are a 4th and a 5th model. The 4th model probably left the factory early 20th century and the 5th model in the 1930s.

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I'll take one

I acquired the one with wood grips, been cleaning it up slowly, pretty dirty inside. Barrel and cylinder in decent condition.
Mechanically it seems good.
I plan to try it out soon.
 

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These did not ship in numerical order, but for what its worth #250432 shipped 7/25 and #254037 shipped 11/25
 

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