Local gun buy back program

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Mrs JSRIII and I were getting ready to leave for the annual Halloween party last night when the phone rang. It was a robo call from the local police department announcing that there was to be a gun buy back program held in town on Saturday with no questions asked. They asked that the guns be unloaded and in a bag or case and that the donor would receive a gift card in exchange.

My question is, Do you think the cops would get PO'd if I set up at the opening to the driveway with a card table and a sign that said $$$$$ for guns here!!!"? :confused:
 
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JSR III said:
Mrs JSRIII and I were getting ready to leave for the annual Halloween party last night when the phone rang. It was a robo call from the local police department announcing that there was to be a gun buy back program held in town on Saturday with no questions asked. They asked that the guns be unloaded and in a bag or case and that the donor would receive a gift card in exchange.



My question is, Do you think the cops would get PO'd if I set up at the opening to the driveway with a card table and a sign that said $$$$$ for guns here!!!"? :confused:
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Great idea!!


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As we say down here, "I admire your spirit, but it ain't gonna happen." I would love for you to do that! Maybe if you move up the street a few blocks. Or in front of the mall.
 
I love it. Set up out of your car so you're not "obstructing the sidewalk" or some such. Frame a copy of your FFL if you have one. And make sure you don't get robbed for the guns or the money you'll be bringing as payment. Bring friends, lots of friends. Armed. Rifles. Or SBR's. Or some of those Sig 223 pistols. I see I'm setting off topic a bit, sorry... but I love the idea...
 
In KC, Mo. several years back, some guys set up a table in the parking lot of where the buy back was taking place & bought, with a good bill of sale, every good firearm that came through... If the seller refused to give a bill of sale or if it wasn't worth fixing... they let the police buy it. It was & still remains legal to do it here in Missouri.. as long as you intend to keep the guns bought in your collection... but if you say you are buying them to sell or trade... you just admitted that you are in business & need an FFL.

The BATF stopped a private auction here (last year)of several hundred modern guns... because the individual admitted buying several guns in the months before the sale just so he could put them in the sale... I do not know if he ever got any or all of his guns back yet.
 
As a post on the internet it's a nice joke. In real life, I would not want to do anything that provocative. LEOs have enough to deal with already.
These cash for guns, no questions asked programs are pretty much just political window dressing. I'm sure they accomplish little or nothing to prevent crime and may even cause crimes, with ne'er do well grandkids sneaking into granny's closet and making off with dear departed grampy's WWII Luger or the like. Hey, they can get $25 no questions asked!
 
As mentioned, besides being seen as provocative and drawing the attention of law enforcement to yourself and your involvement with guns (even if that particular set-up might not be illegal), the biggest concern would be the questionable legal background of a lot of the guns that get turned in at those events. They advertise these buy-backs as "no questions asked" for a good reason. You don't want to end up with a bunch of stolen guns.
 
I did a stunt like that inside the Policestation :p

An older woman came in with a Husqvarna m96 to the police and wanted it scrapped.
Here husband had died and she wanted nothing to do with his guns
(an old rubbish .22 rifle and a Belgian scrap shotgun beside the m96)
I told the woman that she could get money for the m96, she said "You want it? It's yours"
Thank you very much, i filed for the license right there and then.
The clerc had no problem with the deal :D
 
I've been waiting for one. I've got a nickel Iver Johnson .32 top break that's missing a lot of nickel and shoots about 30% of the lead along side the barrel instead of inside the barrel. A 1905 "Saturday Night Special".
 
In Tennessee, anti-gun kook police chiefs and mayors can still have gun buybacks, but our boys in Nashville put a crimp in their style as far as destroying them.

Prior to the disposal of any firearm that has been forfeited or abandoned to the state or a political subdivision of the state, the agency with custody or possession of the firearm must use best efforts to determine if the firearm has been lost by or stolen or otherwise unlawfully obtained from an innocent owner, and if so, must return the firearm to the owner, if ascertainable, unless that person is ineligible to possess, receive, or purchase a firearm under state or federal law.

With certain exceptions, the agency must dispose of any such firearms it receives by sale at public auction to persons licensed as firearms collectors, dealers, importers, or manufacturers who are authorized to receive such firearms under the terms of such license. The auctions may occur online on a rolling basis or at live events, but in no event may an auction occur less frequently than once every six months during any time the agency has an inventory of saleable firearms.

 
ChattanoogaPhil said:
In Tennessee, anti-gun kook police chiefs and mayors can still have gun buybacks, but our boys in Nashville put a crimp in their style as far as destroying them.

Prior to the disposal of any firearm that has been forfeited or abandoned to the state or a political subdivision of the state, the agency with custody or possession of the firearm must use best efforts to determine if the firearm has been lost by or stolen or otherwise unlawfully obtained from an innocent owner, and if so, must return the firearm to the owner, if ascertainable, unless that person is ineligible to possess, receive, or purchase a firearm under state or federal law.

With certain exceptions, the agency must dispose of any such firearms it receives by sale at public auction to persons licensed as firearms collectors, dealers, importers, or manufacturers who are authorized to receive such firearms under the terms of such license. The auctions may occur online on a rolling basis or at live events, but in no event may an auction occur less frequently than once every six months during any time the agency has an inventory of saleable firearms.
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Its great to live in a free state!

Since the NY "Safe Act" was passed and all gun sales have to go through a FFL its totally illegal here. I heard stories that before the "Safe Act" they had plain clothes cops scattered around trying to catch people trying to buy the guns for more money from the people going to surrender them for peanuts!

Mostly they get garbage guns but I have seen some serious collector items go to the blast furnace. :mad:
 
A couple groups I know of have accumulated "junk" firearms, and wait for the buy backs in the up state area, (Downstate IL doesn't do such foolish things). The one time I heard they had around 100 junk guns and got $50 each and took the money and bought new rifles for their club for youth training program.
 
Go to the house next door!

JSR III said:
Mrs JSRIII and I were getting ready to leave for the annual Halloween party last night when the phone rang. It was a robo call from the local police department announcing that there was to be a gun buy back program held in town on Saturday with no questions asked. They asked that the guns be unloaded and in a bag or case and that the donor would receive a gift card in exchange.

My question is, Do you think the cops would get PO'd if I set up at the opening to the driveway with a card table and a sign that said $$$$$ for guns here!!!"? :confused:
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Go to the house next door and "rent" a spot from them for your card table and sign and buy them there before they go in the police buy back...Friend of mine did it a few years back...he got some very nice guns!
 
Let me just state for the record that the above was posted in jest. Besides if I were willing to bring down the possible wrath of the local PD and possibly have them decide to search my home for things like proper storage and record keeping etc. (even though everything is ship shape) I would not want to intentionally run that risk.

Besides, the sign would have to say $$$$$$$ for your S&W guns. :D
 
She at, just set up a table near the front door. You don't need an FFL to buy guns from a private party (at least in my state). It's not like you are going to buy a huge pile of them, and if anyone asks, just say they are for your private collection, and that you will not be re-selling them. I'm sure the majority of the guns are clunkers. Pick out the few good ones that pass by and send the rest to the "buy-backers".

Win-win situation, as I see it.
 
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The last buy back I was at in San Jose, there were only two decent guns brought in. One man brought in his grandfather's Colt New Service. His grandfather was a Canadian Mountie, and this was his issued revolver. It was in almost perfect condition with all the correct markings and included the original holster. We tried to convince him that the gun was very valuable and that he could get a lot of money from a collector. He said he wanted the gun destroyed. He did not want some gang member buying the gun and killing people on the street. How do you deal with someone who is paranoid and delusional?

The second man brought in a pre-17 K-22 Masterpiece from the 1950s. With the original box, wrapping paper, documents, tools, etc. He was the original buyer, had only fired it a few times, and hadn't fired it since about 1960. I told him that he could get a lot more from a collector and I would help him sell it. He listened to me. We put the gun on Gunbroker, and it sold. A collector was very happy with his new gun, and the elderly man was very happy with the money he got. It was a lot more than a $125 gift certificate from Target. See, sometimes a story does have a happy ending.
 
jag312 said:
The last buy back I was at in San Jose, there were only two decent guns brought in. One man brought in his grandfather's Colt New Service. His grandfather was a Canadian Mountie, and this was his issued revolver. It was in almost perfect condition with all the correct markings and included the original holster. ... He said he wanted the gun destroyed. He did not want some gang member buying the gun and killing people on the street. How do you deal with someone who is paranoid and delusional?

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Well, the N-Frame S&W Revolver with a 6-1/2 inch barrel chambered in .455 Webley must be the weapon of choice for gang-bangers, I'm very sure. :rolleyes:
 
Be careful you don't end up buying a murder weapon or stolen gun out of ignorance. Sure, it can happen on a F2F transaction as well, but you generally get to vet those a bit via email of phone before ever meeting. In this instance you are buying from a pool where it's been established before hand that the event is a no questions asked affair. Were I stupid criminal considering dumping so gun of nefarious provenance there, I'd definitely stop and sell to you for cash rather than give my crime gun to the cops for a gift certificate.
 
JK-linux said:
Be careful you don't end up buying a murder weapon or stolen gun out of ignorance. Sure, it can happen on a F2F transaction as well, but you generally get to vet those a bit via email of phone before ever meeting. In this instance you are buying from a pool where it's been established before hand that the event is a no questions asked affair. Were I stupid criminal considering dumping so gun of nefarious provenance there, I'd definitely stop and sell to you for cash rather than give my crime gun to the cops for a gift certificate.
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Well yeah... the guy selling guns out of a car trunk behind the local gas station at 3am might be worthy of suspicion... but ya never know.

A couple years ago a friend purchased (attempted to purchase) a used S&W revolver from GT Distributors. GT is a large online operation with retail stores in Rossville, GA (near Chattanooga) and Austin, TX. GT largely serves law enforcement. Anytime I visit the Rossville store it's full of LEOS. Anyway... my friend buys the revolver from GT but being a resident of TN has to go through a TN FFL up the road. Revolver comes back stolen :rolleyes:. My guess is that GT took it on trade from a LEO so they didn't bother to check. Ya never know...
 
The order to do the so called buy back it had to come from much higher up in the food chain than your local PD.

The funding for such a venture must come from another source,public or private and not from the Police budget.

Find the funding to realize the motivation behind it.

Follow the money trail to the source.
 
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Year's back the Salt Lake City Police Department sponsored a gun buy. I was working as a burglary detective for the Salt Lake County Sheriffs Office at the time and was officed in a substation in an unincorporated suburb. We had a few citizens bring in guns to our substation, not knowing we weren't them. As the 'gun guy' in the receptionist's mind, if I was in the building, she called me to the counter to handle things. I explained it was the SLCPD doing this, not us, and gave them the downtown address. I always offered to check the gun for them to make sure it wasn't loaded. If the gun was worth more than SLCPD was giving, I told them that and gave them the names and addresses of a couple of honest gunshops that would possibly buy them for a more fair price.

One man, prosperously dressed driving a new Cadillac, came in. I gave him the speech. He took me up on the offer to check the gun's loaded status, and he took what looked like a brand new Inglis High Power out of his bag. I told him what it was, that it was indeed empty and gave him the names of the other shops and what I thought they might offer. He smiled and said, "You seem to know a lot about guns." I said I was a hobbyist. He said, it was a real hassle to drive downtown and another hassle to find parking and he didn't see it worthwhile driving around to the gunshops for what he said as just a few bucks. How about he sold it to me?

I told him it might be some kind of conflict of interest. He said, he couldn't see a conflict, I had told him what was what and we were both adults. I told him I didn't have the money on me that the gun was worth. He said, "How much you got?" I checked my wallet and think I had just over $100.

He said, "Keep ten bucks for lunch and I'll be happy with the rest." We traded off gun for cash, exchanged business cards and we both went away happy.
 
JSR III said:
Mrs JSRIII and I were getting ready to leave for the annual Halloween party last night when the phone rang. It was a robo call from the local police department announcing that there was to be a gun buy back program held in town on Saturday with no questions asked. They asked that the guns be unloaded and in a bag or case and that the donor would receive a gift card in exchange.

My question is, Do you think the cops would get PO'd if I set up at the opening to the driveway with a card table and a sign that said $$$$$ for guns here!!!"? :confused:
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Probably. The charge would be along the line of "unlicensed dealer" I would expect. :(
 
Not too awfully long ago, the historically bleeding heart liberal city government decided to "do something" and authorized a gun purchase program. On the appointed day, local gun enthusiasts lined the streets around the location holding signs that they would buy guns for cash, rather than the gift cards the police were offering. Several members of the local gun forums showed off their scores the next day. The picture that I saw on the news that night showed a barrel with a couple of pistols and .22 rifles in it. Seattle hasn't done one since.
 
Buyback Programs--Feel Good Eye Wash

The guns collected during buy back programs are usually old war souvenirs or hunting arms turned in by widows. But, the politicians are publicly delirious when they announce that so many guns were "taken off the streets." Trust me, gangbangers don't participate in buyback programs.

What's especially sad is that the police department makes no distinction between an AR-15 or a highly sought after Savage Model 99. All guns, even the collectibles, get destroyed although I wouldn't at all be surprised to hear that the turn-ins got cherry picked by savvy police officials.
 
Probably. The charge would be along the line of "unlicensed dealer" I would expect.
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I am allowed to buy from another MA individual as long as I file an EFA10 with the state recording the instate transfer. I also have a C&R and am allowed to purchase from anyone in the country in interstate trade as long as the gun is in the book or at least 50 years old and not modified.

I ended up not making it down there anyway so it's all moot. I am anxious to hear what got turned in. It just irks me to think of a registered magnum brought in by some widow ending up in the crusher. :eek:
 
Some years back they tried a buy back in Memphis. The offer was your gun for $75 worth of gas and grocery gift certificates.
I bought a RG-22 (which wouldn't work most of the time) from a co-worker for $10. Filled my pockets with as much cash as I had and went down there.
My wife held our place in line while I went up and down ready to offer cash for anything worth having. There wasn't one single gun worth $75 to be found. I mean nothing but total junk!
When our turn came, I handed the officer my RG and he remarked "We've seen a lot of these today."

In a way, they did a good community service. People with junk guns were able to unload them for much more than they were actually worth. ;)
 
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