Looking for opinion of value if sold.
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noro
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dogboy.
Its all pretty relative. A brand new MP15 SportII is selling for around 550 stock with no accessories. As I said, most LGS will
figure their trade in price at about 2/3 of what they can sell a used gun for. The 400
is a good deal for you, since the're going to try to sell yours for close to what a brand new in the box rifle sells for. I really don't think the'll get the 600 some dollars the're planning on selling yours for. With prices at where they are today, you'd be hard pressed to get more for your rifle, since you took it back to stock. If you left the accessories on, they would probably give you the same and be glad to take it in. Most LGS place no value on user installed accessories (not factory) in that you customized it for yourself. The next buyer may not want them or go a different route. So, the options you installed are basically not valuable to a new buyer, but only to you.
As others have said, take your options off when trading it in and sell them separately to someone who wants them. Be prepared that you might not get what you paid for them since (once again) the're used
The used market and trade in market can be brutal. Its tough to acknowledge that we paid too much for firearms or accessories. Often we put way more into a firearm than it is economically worth it. Take the S&W SD9VE. A great gun at
275. Add a grip sleeve, new Apex internals to it, make it suit you, and find out you could have bought a S&W M&P 9mm 2.0
for everything you paid for the S&W SD. Is it a loss? NO! You
improved it for what you wanted it to do. Does it make financial sense? Not really. But how did you know down the road what would turn you on, or what you might pursue in the future.
If you really like the G20, and don't really care for the Sport2 anymore, just trade it in and get what you really want. I cant tell you how much money I lost trading stuff for stuff I really wanted at the time. Its all part of the hobby. You're not into firearms to make money right?
Its all pretty relative. A brand new MP15 SportII is selling for around 550 stock with no accessories. As I said, most LGS will
figure their trade in price at about 2/3 of what they can sell a used gun for. The 400
is a good deal for you, since the're going to try to sell yours for close to what a brand new in the box rifle sells for. I really don't think the'll get the 600 some dollars the're planning on selling yours for. With prices at where they are today, you'd be hard pressed to get more for your rifle, since you took it back to stock. If you left the accessories on, they would probably give you the same and be glad to take it in. Most LGS place no value on user installed accessories (not factory) in that you customized it for yourself. The next buyer may not want them or go a different route. So, the options you installed are basically not valuable to a new buyer, but only to you.
As others have said, take your options off when trading it in and sell them separately to someone who wants them. Be prepared that you might not get what you paid for them since (once again) the're used
The used market and trade in market can be brutal. Its tough to acknowledge that we paid too much for firearms or accessories. Often we put way more into a firearm than it is economically worth it. Take the S&W SD9VE. A great gun at
275. Add a grip sleeve, new Apex internals to it, make it suit you, and find out you could have bought a S&W M&P 9mm 2.0
for everything you paid for the S&W SD. Is it a loss? NO! You
improved it for what you wanted it to do. Does it make financial sense? Not really. But how did you know down the road what would turn you on, or what you might pursue in the future.
If you really like the G20, and don't really care for the Sport2 anymore, just trade it in and get what you really want. I cant tell you how much money I lost trading stuff for stuff I really wanted at the time. Its all part of the hobby. You're not into firearms to make money right?
True words. Not looking to make $$ & I'm realistic about the values in todays climate. I'm okay with it up to a point. I think I'm just going to hang onto the Sport 1 as it is a great rifle. I just have no use for it except range & I haven't shot her in years, became a safe queen in a sense. The G 20 I will utilize in the outdoors as a back up to wildlife. Its small (relatively), easier to carry, & 15 rounds of 10mm should do the trick. Personal defense I have my G26 or S&W 638.
Afraid I have the same report. My most trusted LGS will not even make an offer on an AR for trade unless it is something really special, or a known customer. They've had some pretty angry responses, so just stopped making offers. They will put one on consignment, but the ones that are there over $500 have been there way too long.
Keep it for now. There will be another manufactured crisis, and a brief window to sell. Just keep your eyes and ears open, and act fast if you want it gone.
Keep it for now. There will be another manufactured crisis, and a brief window to sell. Just keep your eyes and ears open, and act fast if you want it gone.
noro
Member
Dogboy,
You have to remember that LGS, pawn shops, gun show dealers
are all there to make money. They will do business in what makes sense to them. If the're not making money, then they won't be in business long. The used gun market can be very eye opening and brutal especially in how they figure their trade in prices against guns they have in stock.
Only you know your finances, and what you want to do going forward. If you're just absolutely sick of the Sport or really don't care about it in the future, trade it in. If you really like it, and can fund the G20 without it, then by all means keep it.
S&W makes a fine rifle, and makes a ton of them. The problem is that when you add accessories for your tastes, the accessories might not be what the next owner likes or wants. The only way to recoup value on your accessories is to sell them separately and outright to someone who really wants them.
You have to remember that LGS, pawn shops, gun show dealers
are all there to make money. They will do business in what makes sense to them. If the're not making money, then they won't be in business long. The used gun market can be very eye opening and brutal especially in how they figure their trade in prices against guns they have in stock.
Only you know your finances, and what you want to do going forward. If you're just absolutely sick of the Sport or really don't care about it in the future, trade it in. If you really like it, and can fund the G20 without it, then by all means keep it.
S&W makes a fine rifle, and makes a ton of them. The problem is that when you add accessories for your tastes, the accessories might not be what the next owner likes or wants. The only way to recoup value on your accessories is to sell them separately and outright to someone who really wants them.
I tell guys to keep their original parts when assessorizing their
new guns. Makes no difference if AR or a lever action. The best
way to sell most guns is in original form. The "custom" built stuff
is worse and always has been. A guy has a bolt action rifle made
up to his specs. Fancy stock, aftermarket trigger, premium
barrel, ect- ect. This doesn't include labor of Smith. You would be
lucky to recover cost of the barrel chambered and installed. If the
rifle is chambered for your pet wildcat it's worth even less. Now
with Guns made of plastics and stampings coming of assembly
lines like fish sticks, very few of them will be worth anything in
the future unless it is do to a political situation. There were a lot
of ARs bought for over $2K in last scare.
new guns. Makes no difference if AR or a lever action. The best
way to sell most guns is in original form. The "custom" built stuff
is worse and always has been. A guy has a bolt action rifle made
up to his specs. Fancy stock, aftermarket trigger, premium
barrel, ect- ect. This doesn't include labor of Smith. You would be
lucky to recover cost of the barrel chambered and installed. If the
rifle is chambered for your pet wildcat it's worth even less. Now
with Guns made of plastics and stampings coming of assembly
lines like fish sticks, very few of them will be worth anything in
the future unless it is do to a political situation. There were a lot
of ARs bought for over $2K in last scare.
I have all of the original parts so no problem bringing back to store bought condition. Its an oxymoron like modifying a corvette that brings great improvements & performance to the original platform but when you want to sell it no one wants a modified car, but they want a performance car at the same time.
Ackley1952
Member
Ak 47 sell for more . Sks almost as much . And mini 14's are 200 bucks higher. Supply and demand really works . It will be years before demand catches up and then only if the 240 manufacturers of lower receivers stop producing now !!!! Sorry guys but facts are facts .
Rastoff
US Veteran
The problem with modifications is a potential buyer doesn't know if they were done properly. With an AR, it's easy to tell if they were done right, if you know what to look for. If you're new to the AR, then you have no idea what's good or not.
This is why an unmodified gun generally brings more money. A potential buyer at least has some confidence it will work. Even more, if it does have a problem, they have a company to go to. If the gun has been modified, the owner is on their own to get it fixed if there's an issue.
Losing almost $1,000 on a gun would keep me up at night. Hopefully you learned something in the process. Thanks for the update . . .
cyphertext
US Veteran
Was the $475 for the rifle returned to stock, or with all of your modifications?
onebadvet
US Veteran
Have to remember it's like owning car you want to go fast, it's costs, you want modifications it cost, and when selling it, your not going to get what you put into it, you did for your pleasure, just like your rifle.
I hope you took all the goodies off, and sold it has you got it. No need in letting someone have what you put into it, you know he will sell it lot more then he paid for it, that's why he bought it in the first place looking for his profit.
I hope you took all the goodies off, and sold it has you got it. No need in letting someone have what you put into it, you know he will sell it lot more then he paid for it, that's why he bought it in the first place looking for his profit.
noro
Member
Dogboy,
You did well since brand new MP15's are selling close to 500.
Hope you were able to get something you really wanted with the proceeds.
AR prices have dropped so low because of so many makers jumping in. With so many different versions, warranties, etc. the market is basically in a free fall. The demand for new AR's is very soft, and used ones even more so. Main point to remember is that once you've bought a brand new gun, you'll lose 1/3 of what you bought it for should you want to trade it in
in the future. Just how dealers make their money. The're not in business to give consumers the best price. If they don't make money on their transactions, they wont be in business long.
You did well since brand new MP15's are selling close to 500.
Hope you were able to get something you really wanted with the proceeds.
AR prices have dropped so low because of so many makers jumping in. With so many different versions, warranties, etc. the market is basically in a free fall. The demand for new AR's is very soft, and used ones even more so. Main point to remember is that once you've bought a brand new gun, you'll lose 1/3 of what you bought it for should you want to trade it in
in the future. Just how dealers make their money. The're not in business to give consumers the best price. If they don't make money on their transactions, they wont be in business long.
hdwhit
Member
Congratulations. That's more than I would have guessed. You must be a very good negotiator.
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