Looking to buy a Gewehr 43

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So I'm in the market for a Gewehr 43, and I found a guy that wants to sell his.
It all matching serial numbers has all the original stuff and the aftermarket shooters stuff but doesn't have the scope or scope mount.
He is asking $2800-$3000. Is this alittle to much?
 
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There were only 402,713 of the G43 made in 1943 to 1945. Condition would dictate the price of it.
 
Price sounds very reasonable if condition is good. Price lately on these milsurps is certainly on the rise. Would love to have one myself. Check Gunbroker for prices but they may scare ya. Couple of matching 98ks went for $5000 each earlier this year but sure sounded like a "bidding war" to me at those prices.
 
$2800-$3000 sounds right to me unless the stock had been sanded and is original to the G/K 43. I've seen asking prices as high as $5000 for a minty all matching G/K 43. Original scope mounts and scopes can easily double the price. But be careful if you intend to get both Lots of fakes out their that can fool a novice. Take someone with you who is knowledgeable with G/K 43's when looking at scope and mount, especially the mount. I suggest get the Collector Grade book "Hitlers Garand" which will show you what to look for on both the G/K 43 itself and the scope and mounts. It also shows many of the fakes scope and mounts. Well worth the cost.
 
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Very well said samnev. Too many sanded stocks and guns that Bubba has gotten their hands on.
 
I concur with what has been said. Stock condition is important. Original scopes are available, but original mounts are like hen's teeth. Many fakes, the Czech post war mounts are a middle ground option.
 
Here are some pictures of the rifle. I guess it's a duffel gun as well, but to be honest that adds to the value to me, I've heard a lot of people say that ruins the value.
He sent 19 total pictures I think. Only did the first 5 sent.
 

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Looks pretty good from the pics so far. Stock does not look sanded to me. For that price not bad at all.
 
There were only 402,713 of the G43 made in 1943 to 1945. Condition would dictate the price of it.

As I recall while all of them had provisions for scope mounting, the plan was for only about half of them to actually be issued with a scope. Only about 50,000 G43/K43 rifles were actually prepared and issued as sniper rifles.

In actuality, Zf4 scope production was only somewhere between 100,000 and 150,000 units and this was the only scope the Germans ever put on the G43/K43. Consequently, at best only about 50,000 to 100,000 non sniper G43/K43 rifles ever got a scope. The vast majority were shot with iron sights and scoped or otherwise most them were employed as company level designated marksman rifles with just around 50,000 intended, selected and specially prepared as sniper rifles.

In addition German troops were expected to destroy a semi-auto rifle rather than let it fall into enemy hands. At a minimum this meant breaking the stock to prevent immediate re-use and damage to the action or barrel was preferable. Snipers in particular were far more likely to pitch their rifle under a handy tank tread rather than let it be captured, unless they were shot dead first. Consequently, the number of captured rifles was far less than the number issued.

Yet everyone wants a G43 / K43 "sniper" rifle and feels it is not complete without a scope when the actual occurrence of a G43 or K43 sniper rifle is down around 5% to perhaps a maximum of 10% of the total rifles that survived the war. A scoped G43 or K43 of any kind is at best only around a quarter to at most a third of the rifles that survived the war.

Logically, a G43/K43 buyer should not expect to find a scope with the rifle as only 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 of the G43/K43s encountered should have a scope.
 
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Did the seller send pics of all the parts that should have matching #s?
 
Very nice if you’re in to the history, but the gun so valuable and parts so scarce, I’d be afeared to shoot it lest it break.

Look into the Ruskie Simonovs for a far cheaper gun that looks about the same, is historic, and shoots a much cheaper shell.
 
G43s come up so rarely that you almost have to ignore the price as a collector. I have "overpaid" for a couple of unusual milsurps, but I've "stolen" far more, so it's a wash.
 
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