Lubrication question - confused

The advice I followed while shooting service rifle competition for 20+ years got carried over to handguns and has served me quite well since. If it slides, grease it. If it rotates, oil it. Either in moderation.

I am ex-military and this is exactly what I have been doing for many years. Never had problems due to over or under lubrication.
 
Gun Oiling

After a thorough cleaning only a light coat is needed for storage, no need for oil drip stains everywhere. Before firing it is best to apply a heavy coat to the in-side parts. Over the years I have done both under and over oiling. If the lube is dripping out of or off of you weapon then those drops are wasted. Most guns will jam if they are too dry. If someone is worried about dust attracting to the oil then they are worried about little to nothing. When firing a dry or under oiled weapon the carbon will build up and cook on the hot parts making cleaning more difficult. While firing a well oiled weapon the carbon will turn into a sludge that most of it can be wiped off with a paper towel. When firing many rounds it is best to apply more oil as you shoot and do a wipe down as often as time will permit. If the spray oil is used similarly to "Gumout" the results are limited wiping always removes more gun carbon than spraying. Over spraying will not hurt any weapon it will only empty the oil can faster. WD40 is not the best oil, it is better than "Nothing". I have never ever seen gun oil gum up it is not grease. The more you do it the more you will understand...
 
Note to self: don't take training class from a jerk!
 
After a thorough cleaning only a light coat is needed for storage, no need for oil drip stains everywhere. Before firing it is best to apply a heavy coat to the in-side parts. Over the years I have done both under and over oiling. If the lube is dripping out of or off of you weapon then those drops are wasted. Most guns will jam if they are too dry. If someone is worried about dust attracting to the oil then they are worried about little to nothing. When firing a dry or under oiled weapon the carbon will build up and cook on the hot parts making cleaning more difficult. While firing a well oiled weapon the carbon will turn into a sludge that most of it can be wiped off with a paper towel. When firing many rounds it is best to apply more oil as you shoot and do a wipe down as often as time will permit. If the spray oil is used similarly to "Gumout" the results are limited wiping always removes more gun carbon than spraying. Over spraying will not hurt any weapon it will only empty the oil can faster. WD40 is not the best oil, it is better than "Nothing". I have never ever seen gun oil gum up it is not grease. The more you do it the more you will understand...

Aaaannnnddd . . . Go!
 
Have a look at this...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/p9bOT_d60LM

Think this puts an end to the question....

This video doesn't address an instructor imposing their self given authority on you and your weapon but with that AR, two mags through it and that thing is going to start misfiring Beretta pistol maybe three or four mags, dirty ammo sooner. I did notice they made sure the oil in the barrels were well drained and the video was edited so it really doesn't put and end to the question....just a beginning.
 
Have a look at this… Think this puts an end to the question….
“ This video doesn’t address an instructor imposing…”


OK, let’s say, the gauge is 1 to 10,
One side, being, ‘immerse the entire firearm in motor oil’,
the other side is, ‘don’t care, don’t clean, don’t matter’.
They will Always be 1’s and 10’s,
and a few 2’s and 9’s,
But the VAST MAJORITY, are, 4-5-6’s

SO, Listen to the, ‘U-Tube Boobs”, on the extreme, one way or the other ?
Or listen to the VAST MAJORITY, of, ‘been their done that’, which are the 4,5,6’s ?

Hey, if it is the range, who cares !
If it is YOUR, life, Well perhaps it just cleans up the gene pool !
 
Wolf Oil

Good info above...
So what's a really good cleaner and oil to lube your gun??

On this subject and just received this email about this all in one gun oil & cleaner.
Anyone ever tried Wolf Oil??
Thanks
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Well, I was going to try some, but could not find anyone willing to hold the Wolf while I oiled him!!!

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
 
“… So what’s a really good cleaner and oil to lube your gun? …”

Couple of yeas ago, browsing through a gun shops, ‘close out bin’.
Came across a little bottle of, EEZOX, tried it, liked it.
Bought more. It is a liquid, put it on, thin layer, let it dry.
(If to much and the next day it is still wet, just wipe off, ‘lightly’ the, ‘wet’)
It drys and Lubs, and Protects from rust.

Jury still out, but so far, 3 years now, I like it.
2 years ago, I dosed some garden tools, in the fall, put them in the shed over winter, next spring they had, 0, rust.
With WD-40 or B.C. Sheath, (Barricade), their was alway a little flash rust.

And in two Colt S/A’s, 38-40 & a 66 in same. (shoot soft lead bullets),
The cleaning just got easier and easier.

3 years ago, completely took down a 640 & a 60, Liberally dosed, (wet), inside frame, and all parts. Next day, just ran a Q tip over the wet spots, next day, everything was dry, put them together.
Took the plate off the 60 last week, inside looked like the day I put it together, and just as smooth.
I Live in the country, I reload, and shoot 20 to 40 rounds every week, in the J frames, so just guessing that 60 had, about 2,000, lead rounds, with just a wet mop through the bore/cyl, and a bore snake, and Nothing done to the inside. I like it.

I am thinking, a firearm, (well broken in), then completely taken apart, cleaned, ‘wet lubed, wear points,’ with this stuff, then next day, just dried off with a Q tip, put together, could sit in a dresser drawer for YEARS, and Still work.

The advertising says: 450 F ABOVE, and 95 F Below. Coldest I ever had was a standard temp of -40F, (NOT wind Chill), the Temp. Car started fine, (a SAAB), but as soon as I drove 1 foot, I had 4 flat tires !!!!

Never did have a problem, but just like most gun nuts, always looking for something newer and better. And this one sounded like it was. So far, it has proven it is.

BUT, keep in mind, Several Products, can work. It is More, the, ‘doing’, than it is the, ‘product’.
 
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Unprofessional and Lazy

That instructor is unprofessional. You can stuff an old 1911 with wet almost anything and it will run. If you have a metal gun that has not been properly lubed, soaking it will get it running, even if it is a mess.

Spraying the whole inside of my M&P with lube is idiotic, and will cause it to gum up, maybe not today, and that bone-head instructor either does not know or not care about the problems it is going to cause, requiring detailed stripping and cleaning.

In carry classes, the "three strikes rule" is appropriate. Your gun jams three times, you put it away and use my loaner. We are not going to work on your gun in class; you can see the gunsmith later.

Not on;y unprofessional but lazy. Rather than train students to deal with malfunctions in a crisis he just lubes in hopes of avoiding problems.

In my training classes I teach to clean as needed, when you pack it away and when you get it out and after a heavy use session. Carry handgun is more prone to dirt, etc. and should be cleaned more often. Personally I clean every 60 days or so and lube only as needed.
 
“ Hoppes #9 smells like bug spray? … “

Several years ago saw a cartoon, in a magazine.
Think it was, ‘Outdoor Life”, should have saved it.

Circa, the late 50’s, One frame, Left side of frame, Two men were standing in front of a fireplace, both smoking pipes,
mounted heads & Fish were on the wall, and a couple of long guns hanging. Both in suits & ties.

Right side of frame, two ladies were standing in front of a kitchen door.
Both have posh dresses on, with full aprons.
Balloon over one woman: “ I used Chenille # 5 to get my man”.
Balloon over the other woman: “ I used Hoppies #9”.
 
I'm non-confrontational..

I would just say 'yeah' and when I got home FIX it according to the manual.

Question. Why would you spray lube all over a revolver because 'it isn't lubed enough'. I would get my oil and put some where it was NEEDED.
 
As has been said before if it slides grease it if it rotates oil it. A light oil wipe for the exterior, whatever gun oil I have at the time...I use Lubriplate grease on the friction points that are nice enough to ask for grease by shining up at me.
Excess lubrication is not good for holsters, clothes & the storage case foam padding. It's not wise to be heavily lubed when carrying concealed. Reeking of cleaning chemicals & oils might just give you away.
 

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