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I'm looking at a minty 58 just because they're rather scarce. Are prices softening on these? There were a couple for sale at the auction sites etc. but they didn't sell at "seven bills". I thought they were kind of high in the first place considering their origins, but I am a "far cry" as an expert on the collectabilty of Smiths.
This specimen is 99% but it has rubber grips and the guy wants $775.I'm thinking $625 -$650. I know he won't go even close to my thoughts.
Should I pass at this point?
 
Do a search on the forum under model 58. There have been a lot of threads lately on them. I recently paid $850 shipped for a mint first year gun without box or tools.:D
 
That model is a "grail " gun for many and as a per centage of the dwindling numbers of pre-lock S&W's available this one is in the lower numbers comparatively.

Yes, the market (in general) has softened. Can you expect to find pre-lock S&W's at prices less than even when the current administration came in ? Always the possibility that the blind hog will find an acorn once in a while, but if it's something you want and it's relatively scarce on the market (as opposed to say, model 10's or 29's) the don't hold your breath waiting for a 99% specimen to fall into your lap for a price that some folks will pay for pristine K frame in the box with all the case candy.

The market has softened in general, but quality hard to find desirable S&W's are still selling at pretty good prices, just not as fast as a year ago and not to people who had more money than sense who panicked and bought everything in sight over the last two years. That train is staged up back at the station waiting for the next sensationalistic headline about shortages or bad legislation.

Personally, I'm not seeing a big drop in price on the kind of thing your talking about, just more folks willing to sell them that are facing hard economic times or finding their panic has subsided and they'd rather tie the money up in something else. Like everyone else, I love to run across the occasional poor decision maker who bought a model 58 last year (or whatever) for top dollar and is now needing cash so bad he's willing to take a beating. It happens, but not often to me where I can take advantage of their fire sale. That falls into the category of the widow selling her late hubby's gun at a yard sale insisting she gets the full price on the receipt tucked in the box when he bought it 40 years ago . . . .

For a 99% specimen as you described there may be better deals out there, but waiting to find such and counting on it may turn into years and never materialize. Try this, put an ad in the WTB section asking for at least a 99% condition model 58 for $650 and see how many responses you get . . . we'll wait :D
 
I understand your reasoning and I concur with you reguarding finding a gun in the condition you want. I posted my question as a result of a "Gunbroker auction that had a NIB 58 for a buy now price of $700. If they are worth $850 in excellent condition, why is a NIB at $700 just sitting there. Hence my original question. Perhaps "we'll wait" .........and see.
I appreciate your time and thoughts on he matter.-Thanks
 
If I was in the market for a 58 ( which I'm not, having divested myself of all .41 mag stuff a couple of years ago) I would have probably jumped on one NIB for $700. The thing I've noticed about most auction sites, since re-listing for a no-sale is free, folks don't tend to drop the price, and unless it's grossly over priced it may take a while but someone will eventually tumble onto the "decent" or "marginal" deal and pull the trigger on it. I've lost a couple waiting to see if the price would come down or they would accept less when I noticed they had been up for a couple of cycles with no bidders.

I know I don't peruse the auction sites as nearly as much as I did for a while. And it's been my experience that one must 'mine' the sites regularly and in-depth to latch on to the real bargains when they are lurking for whatever reason.

Good luck with the hunt ;)
 
For me, I would pass, even though I would love to own one. Ammo is harder to find (or way more $$ than more common calibers). If you are into reloading, maybe it's a good deal!

The top of my current price price range is in the mid-500s, if I'm buying anything at all (subject to change!)
 
I have bought two in the last 6 years, both were about 98% one was blue the other nickel. I did'nt pay over $300.00 for either, but I watched them both for months and months. In my area everyone wants .357 or 44 magnum not .41 magnum. Good luck
 
I'm a huge .41 mag fan and have been since 1976. If you shop around the price on 50 rounds of plinking LSWC's are very reasonable and 210 gr. Speer Gold Dots are an excellent self defense and deer round. A .41 can do everything a .44 mag can do and much more than any .357 round IF you use the right hand loaded recipe. A .41 is a true .410 round and the .44 measures out at .429 inches. Not much gain for the extra power and more noise and recoil. A hot loaded hard cast LSWC will shoot from stem to stern on a deer and the animal will not know what hit it. I enjoy reloading so it is my favorite "Do All" caliber.

Ask Iggy his opinion on that 58. He carried and used a 58 .41 magnum during his tenure a a LEO and will attest to the fact that it will not let you down if you do your job. I am a diehard 1911 .45 lover as I carried and have shot one since I joined the Coast Guard in 78 and carry a Colt Commander every day for SD as I shoot it well and it's a proven round. I also carry a 3" 657 in the winter months loaded with Speer Gold Dots and feel very well armed. The .41 does a number on a 200 lb. deer and I know it it will do it's job with authority if God forbid I have to ever use it to protect myself and family.

That is a great price for that 58. If I didn't have one I would jump on it like the proverbial fly on crap! They aren't made any longer and you will have a very unique S&W that will serve you very well and also retain it's value if you properly maintain it.

If you do purchase it please pm me and I'll give you some good recipes and a source for some of them card cast LSWC's. Used that bullet loaded hot for last ditch bear protection when I was stationed in Kodiak and Sitka Alaska and they are KA.

Regards,

SG
 
I would gladly pay <$800 bucks to have another 58....
I don't want to sell it, I don't care if I make money on it, or not......I just want a twin to the one I have...
They don't make them anymore, they never will, and I want another one...just in case.

The 58 is the only handgun I feel that way about....
This isn't about anyone other than me, and your mileage may vary...not sold in stores, subject to quantity on hand, no rainchecks....
 
I would think that a NIB 58 would be gone quickly at 700...it may be the new 'Classic 58' and that price is about right for a internal lock wearing monster....

I looked around and tried to find relatively inexpensive 58's, but they are sold just about as soon as they are posted. I put a Want-to-Buy ad in the classifieds and through the grace of forum members here, I now have 2 58's that I dearly love.

Best luck in your search....the 41's are addictive...and the 58 is hard to beat....just ask Iggy about the Bronco that he killed with his :)
 
As a result of this post I looked on GB. I found several nice 58s for sale. 2 in particular caught my eye. 1 is at $800 now with 7 bids and the other is at $706 with 17 bids. These are both 99% in box guns with active bidding. I'm guessing they'll go for more, before the auctions close. If I found one in this condition for $700 it would be mine. I don't know if the market for these is softening. Of course one of the dealers (well known for higher prices), has one for over $1K.
 
There is a 58 for sale in Georgia for $795 that looks like a real nice piece for someone who may be interested.....
 
Is there something more appealing, from a functionality point of view, about a 58 than a 57? I understand that they made fewer 58s and they are more collectible, but other than that I don't get it.
 
thedane, a #58 looks like a HB #10 on steroids. It smacks with authority, on both ends. I wanted one for years, and a forum member here helped me find one. Mine is not pristine, but it is exactly what I wanted. Now I want a shiny nickel one.
 
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