M&P 10mm

[Nonuthin]

Our 10mm memories are short...
Colt's 10mm just didn't work, therefore discontinued.
S&W's frames cracked, therefore discontinued.
Glock's frames worked wonders and, to this day, are the only production guns that can digest full power 10mm loads, not the ***** 40S&W commercial loads being sold now as 10mm.
Glock makes several 10mm's including the model 20sf for those of us with small hands and it's a 10mm winner.
Remember that S&W is a "marketing conglomerate" now and is structured to produce for high volume demand which excludes the 10mm market. The Performance Center may be a short-lived exception under current ownership.

 

[smith46wesson]

So if Glock (with their polymer framed pistol) is the only one making a truly reliable 10mm pistol is there a reason that S&W (with a polymer framed M&P) couldn't accomplish the same task? Heck, the 10mm was one of Glock's earlier designs and they made it work. S&W has more than a decade of experience making the M&P. I'm sure they could come up with something.

The 2.0 compact was a direct shot at the Glock 19. Maybe this is an area where they could take another shot. What other base does Glock have covered that Smith doesn't? .357 SIG? Smith has done that before and I'm sure could easily do it again. 10mm is really it, unless you believe the'd make a .45 GAP.

 

[Mark in GA]

Agreed S&W has really gone hard at Glock for the SD and LE market with the M&P line. The 2.0 has just upped the ante.

1) The Shield has taken the single stack market by storm and I believe it is well ahead of the Glock 43 (market leader position).
2) The M&P 2.0 FS 9/40/45 are all solid performers for them (solid market share and growing).
3) The new Compact aimed at the G19/G23 double-stack defense market (expect these to be strong sellers).

The only segments left would be:

4) Target the G26 sized subcompact with a double-stack 2.0 model (single stack in high demand, not sure about double stack).
5) Go for the Competition market of Long Slide, Optic Ready, with a 9/40 CORE 2.0 (fully expect this one in time)
6) Go for the hunting/outdoor market with a variation of a Long Slide CORE 2.0 on the larger frame in 10mm and 45 (stiffer 2.0 frame should work with strong springs and enough slide mass to let it run smoothly).

I don't know what they will do next, but any of these are pretty obvious markets they could pursue.

Mark in GA

 

[Smakmauz]

I have a glock 20 gen 4 and it handles the hottest loads just fine.not much more snap than my .45. I also have a sig tacops 1911 in 10mm and it is one hell of a shooter.there is NO reason S&W cannot make a M&P 10mm with a 5" barrel.It would sell just fine.I have been e-mailing them about this for a while.We can only hope they do it in 2018.10mm is getting very popular now.people are seeing that 10mm is not the recoil monster the magazines and online gun reviewers make it to be.

Agree. unless you're gonna shoot nothing but buffalo bore stuff, 10mm is a lot more tame in glock than I ever thought it would be. I got an EFK fire dragon conversion barrel for my gen4 G21 and some G20 mags and I was good to go. To me 10mm just feels like a faster cycling .45ACP... probably because it does cylce faster, but other than that I don't feel a heck of a lot of difference.

 

[Smakmauz]

also I think they may have to beef up the mass a little bit to do a 10mm on the M&P platform. not hard I don't think... if they just didn't shape down the sides of the slide as much to keep more mass and used a stiffer spring they would likely be fine. I always felt that the M&P 45 was quite a bit snapier than the glock 21 but the 21 is a bigger gun. since the 10mm glock came out before the .45ACP, it seems like they built the frame for 10mm and then adapted it to .45 which is very easy. Going the other direction might be a little harder (as glock found out with their .40's).

I would be likely to buy a 10mm M&P I think. Especially if it was setup like the G40 MOS. That think would be a powerhouse!!

 

[Rastoff]

Remember that S&W is a "marketing conglomerate" now and is structured to produce for high volume demand which excludes the 10mm market.

No, I don't think this is accurate. Certainly there are pistol lines within the S&W company that are specifically designed to be high volume, like the Shield, but that is not all the company is about. If it were, they would have discontinued the Model 17 a long time ago.

Even though the M&P line is designed to be a volume seller, there is room for a low volume caliber.

Alas, I don't think it will happen.