M&P 15 22-25 round magazine availability

[Flyfish16]

I purchased an M&P 15 22 a few months ago and am incredibly frustrated that there is no magazine availability. I'm to the point that I might sell it. I will not pay $60-100 for them, I refuse to do that. Does anyone know if they will eventually be available or is it possible they will be banned before the supply catches up? I would even purchase the 10 round magazines if I could find them for price but they are bringing the same prices (or at least people are asking for those ridiculous prices). If they ban them then I would assume there is no secondary market for them. Does anyone have any insight? Thanks

 

[ChopperBill]

Wish I could answer those kind of questions. If I could I would be sitting next to Bill Gates having diner at the country club.

 

[Jagrmaister]

Looking into the crystal ball...I predict...you'll have to wait until the frenzy is over.

The ten rounders last I knew could easily be modified to be a 25-rounder by shaving the tab, thus, why they fetch roughly the same price.

 

[ARGH]

there will not be any more oem 25 rounders because the high cap mag ban will go into effect way before s&w will commit money to producing them. they wont make them if they cannot sell them.

i think we are weeks away from the ban.

 

[Ruger14Ron]

My crystal ball says otherwise. There won't be a federal ban, only state-specific ones. NY fell and next is CA. CT probably around the end of the month.

But what makes you think there will be a federal ban? They couldn't even get the proposed AWB to the Senate floor never mind the house.

Just have to wait and see. I've spoken with management at S&W and they are making magazines as fast as they can, which is why some retailers have already sold some new stock (ie: Midway had a shipment 3 days ago and sold them out quickly). Per S&W Magpul makes the 15-22 magazine and they are working through the backlog.

Oh and one more thing. Part of the shortage has to do with ramped-up production of rifles. S&W is pumping them out as fast as they can and the magazines they have / receive are going into the new rifle kits.

My hope is once everyone realizes there won't be a federal ban that there's a huge flood of magazines back into the market and at the same time the retailers are pumping them out too. Imagine the pricing when hoarders and speculators realize...

 

[Scopes]

I swear, if I could just find my DeLorean this would all be settled.

 

[TheMaineEvent]

Of all the companies who make magazines, it really looks like S&W is one of the few not making an effort to bring the 25-round mags to market. You can either look for the long 10-round mags and change em over or buy some promag 32-round mags. Even with a wait at least PM is making theirs.

 

[zload]

Lets see, if Magpul does make the mag and also another series of popular mags with their name on it (PMAGS) that about a gazillion people are begging for right now, where would they put their extra capacity/OT etc. I know little to nothing about injection molding but I've seen video of the process and the various molds all fit in the same machine(s) so which molds do you think are running 24x7 15-22 or PMAGS? I have no doubt they are supplying the mags to S&W per contract but excess production... probably not. How many AR15s vs 15-22 in the US? I have no idea who makes the mags for S&W but whoever does I doubt the 15-22 mags are their primary product. So we wait

 

[Majorlk]

Of all the companies who make magazines, it really looks like S&W is one of the few not making an effort to bring the 25-round mags to market. You can either look for the long 10-round mags and change em over or buy some promag 32-round mags. Even with a wait at least PM is making theirs.

S&W doesn't make the magazines, a third party makes them and S&W says they are making them as fast as they can. Also, the 15-22 is the hottest selling .22 LR on the market. That takes magazines, too.

Give 'em a break. Nobody, and I mean nobody, anticipated a run on magazines. Even ProMag and Plinker Tactical are backordered.

 

[Hanzerik]

Of all the companies who make magazines, it really looks like S&W is one of the few not making an effort to bring the 25-round mags to market. You can either look for the long 10-round mags and change em over or buy some promag 32-round mags. Even with a wait at least PM is making theirs.

Make em faster ProMag...I have 4 on backorder LOL

 

[TheMaineEvent]

S&W doesn't make the magazines, a third party makes them and S&W says they are making them as fast as they can. Also, the 15-22 is the hottest selling .22 LR on the market. That takes magazines, too.

Give 'em a break. Nobody, and I mean nobody, anticipated a run on magazines. Even ProMag and Plinker Tactical are backordered.

Yeah, I know S&W isn't actually the manufacturer. I just use their name since it's their mags. Perhaps the reason why there's such a shortage of mags is they don't make their own and have to rely on someone like MP to make them and they're busy making theirs.

I'm OK with waiting, but a little information as to what's going on goes a long ways with me. I've had five 25-round mags backordered with S&W for over two months now with not even a peep out of them. You'd think after this long a "we haven't forgotten about you and expect mags to be in on X date" would be in order.

 

[Majorlk]

Yeah, I know S&W isn't actually the manufacturer. I just use their name since it's their mags. Perhaps the reason why there's such a shortage of mags is they don't make their own and have to rely on someone like MP to make them and they're busy making theirs.

I'm OK with waiting, but a little information as to what's going on goes a long ways with me. I've had five 25-round mags backordered with S&W for over two months now with not even a peep out of them. You'd think after this long a "we haven't forgotten about you and expect mags to be in on X date" would be in order.

Virtually all firearms manufacturers get their magazines from one of about a half-dozen suppliers. Many of the parts (sights, buttstocks, FCG) on the 15-22 are made by OEM suppliers. Just like automobiles, and just about every other mechanical device.

I hear you about the lack of information, though.

 

[cush]

there will not be any more oem 25 rounders because the high cap mag ban will go into effect way before s&w will commit money to producing them. they wont make them if they cannot sell them.

i think we are weeks away from the ban.

I'm going to step on my soap box and perhaps get myself into some hot water here.

If all the folks complaining about magazine/ammo availablity would put half as much effort into contacting their elected representatives we wouldn't have to worry about a ban.

If your attitude is that we have already lost, then you either need an attitude adjustment or we need you to get out of the wagon. Plenty of us here are interested in keeping our rights and are working hard to do so.

In short, stop bitc#ing and do something about it!

 

[KEN L]

I swear, if I could just find my DeLorean this would all be settled.

Yeah, go forward about a year and if the worst has happened go back about six months and stock up on up on EVERYTHING!!

Hey, would you stop and pick me up on the way?

 

[AlDente67]

May i ask what the procedure is to convert a 10 round long into a 25 round?

I'm not sure what "shaving the tab" actually means.

 

[Majorlk]

remove floor plate and spring
insert thin screwdriver into the guide slot until it touches the blocking pin
hit screwdriver with a hammer until the pin bends and pops out
reinsert spring and reinstall floorplate.

Takes about two minutes.

There's a half dozen threads and a couple of videos on this forum describing it..

 

[BlueZero]

May i ask what the procedure is to convert a 10 round long into a 25 round?

I'm not sure what "shaving the tab" actually means.

Video of pin in S&W 10rd mag.

I don't have any 10 round long mags so I was never sure exactly where the pin was but this video helped clear it up for me.

 

[acropora]

if magpul is the ones making the S&W 25 rounders then there will be a long wait.a gun page i like on facebook put up a list of manufacturers and what there production was at or will be in the next 2 months and all are ramping up production over the next month or so.but magpul was listed and the list said they were about 1 million mags behind i just ordered three 32 rounders from promag but i dont expect to see them for at least 3 weeks if im lucky.

 

[Scopes]

May i ask what the procedure is to convert a 10 round long into a 25 round?

I'm not sure what "shaving the tab" actually means.

Additionally, Harbor Freight always runs coupons for a free screwdriver set. You could take the long flat head and file a grove in the center. That will make it even easier to center on the pin and pound with a hammer.

 

[farmerjohn]

there will not be any more oem 25 rounders because the high cap mag ban will go into effect way before s&w will commit money to producing them. they wont make them if they cannot sell them.

i think we are weeks away from the ban.

This guy must be one of the hoarders trying to sell them for as much as possible . Just trying to scare everyone to pay too much for mags !