Got an EZ in August tried shooting it for 3 weeks but nothing but trouble. First it shoots left so adjusted the sight all the way to the right still shoots left. Loaded 8 Remington shells it ejects the 7th casing plus the last bullet from both clips. If you only load 5 shells and it don't kick the 5th bullet out along with the 4th casing the slide won't stay back so you don't know if you have one more shell or not. Sent it in 3 weeks ago not back yet. Anyone having issues like mine?
M&P 380 EZ Issues
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RGVshooter
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well as far as shooting to the left, adjusting the sights and still shooting to the left tells me that you're right handed and no offense, but probably still needs to practice shooting a wee bit more before adjusting the sights. As far as the other issue, it's hard to say unless we're watching how you hold the pistol while shooting. maybe it's shooters error, maybe its a mechanical thing.
Inusuit
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I shot one for the first time last night at an NRA basic pistol class. It shot to point of aim, was very popular with students because of the ease of loading and slide racking. It was brand new, shot to point of aim for me. Had a couple of stovepipes in the first 50 rounds. One caused, I think, by failure of the student to seat the magazine. The other, who knows? Obviously needed some break in rounds down range.
Oh, by the way, welcome to the S&W forum. We often have new folks whose first post is to complain about a S&W product. As RVGshooter noted, we have no idea of your shooting experience. No offense intended, but your use of terms like clip instead of magazine, bullet instead of cartridge, may indicate you are a new shooter. It would be helpful to know for example, how far left is point of impact at what distance? How many rounds total through the gun? Have you had an professional instruction in handgun shooting?
Often we recommend that someone else shoot a problem handgun as a way of determining if there is a possibility of operator error. Too late, since you have already sent the pistol back to S&W. I don't intend to diminish your complaint, as it is entirely possible that the problem is a faulty handgun. It has been known to happen.
However, a compact handgun like the Shield is particularly sensitive to limp wristing, inconsistent grip, or other shooter issues. As noted above, one problem with the pistol in the class was the failure of a student to properly lock in the magazine.
Oh, by the way, welcome to the S&W forum. We often have new folks whose first post is to complain about a S&W product. As RVGshooter noted, we have no idea of your shooting experience. No offense intended, but your use of terms like clip instead of magazine, bullet instead of cartridge, may indicate you are a new shooter. It would be helpful to know for example, how far left is point of impact at what distance? How many rounds total through the gun? Have you had an professional instruction in handgun shooting?
Often we recommend that someone else shoot a problem handgun as a way of determining if there is a possibility of operator error. Too late, since you have already sent the pistol back to S&W. I don't intend to diminish your complaint, as it is entirely possible that the problem is a faulty handgun. It has been known to happen.
However, a compact handgun like the Shield is particularly sensitive to limp wristing, inconsistent grip, or other shooter issues. As noted above, one problem with the pistol in the class was the failure of a student to properly lock in the magazine.
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russinator
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No issues here....
OLDSTER
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Shooting too far left ??
No issues to report here. My wife and mother both have one. My wife's shot left when we got it, but the sight was drifted to the left. So we drifted it to center and it shot point of aim. I accidentally engage the safety sometimes but that's my fault. I ride the frame too high and I have big hands.
Make sure you're tightening down the rear sight really well. And make sure the front sight is centered from the factory.
Try different ammunition next time and see if that helps with the ejection anomalies. Could be something as simple as a particular batch of ammo.
Don't lose faith in it just yet. It's an excellent firearm.
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Make sure you're tightening down the rear sight really well. And make sure the front sight is centered from the factory.
Try different ammunition next time and see if that helps with the ejection anomalies. Could be something as simple as a particular batch of ammo.
Don't lose faith in it just yet. It's an excellent firearm.
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One thing I found in the beginning with my EZ regarding shooting left is try aiming one ring higher on the target and at the 1'oclock position and that should help. I've got 2,000 + rounds thru mine since buying it in February. I Love this Gun!
msjdgman
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As I recall, the early made ones had issues like you are having. It was pretty much resolved with different mag springs. I don't remember for sure, but if memory serves me right, those made after March of this year had the issue resolved. My wife got one with a manufacture date of late April of this year, and it runs perfectly.
The barrel direction at time of discharge dictates the path of the bullet. That direction can be changed, controlled by grip, trigger technique, force of recoil. Hotter loads can and will change vertical deviation and aggravate left right errors as well. As stated, low and left POI is commonly attributed to shooter.
familyman357oh
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gwoker,
Please post the results once you get your pistol back from S&W. I'm in much the same boat.
I just bought a 380EZ. It also shoots left (and I'm left-handed), but I haven't even really looked at that yet because I have a very consistent problem with the last round stove-piping!
With both magazines, regardless of ammunition or how many rounds are in the magazine, both magazines stove-piped on the last round about 80% of the time (meaning the fired case of the second-to-last cartridge ejected and the last unfired round would stove-pipe). After a little over 250 rounds through the pistol, one magazine inexplicably became about 90% *reliable* while the other magazine remained about 80% unreliable.
I put a A-Zoom 380 ACP aluminum snap cap in both magazines between the spring and the floor plate. This reduced the magazine capacity to only 7 rounds of course, but the added spring tension seems to have done the trick (both magazine were 100% reliable over 50 rounds fired with only two rounds in each magazine).
It seems like the magazine springs need to be a smidge stronger, but I don't know if S&W has any springs to replace the original ones.
I eagerly await hearing if S&W was able to fix your pistol!
Please post the results once you get your pistol back from S&W. I'm in much the same boat.
I just bought a 380EZ. It also shoots left (and I'm left-handed), but I haven't even really looked at that yet because I have a very consistent problem with the last round stove-piping!
With both magazines, regardless of ammunition or how many rounds are in the magazine, both magazines stove-piped on the last round about 80% of the time (meaning the fired case of the second-to-last cartridge ejected and the last unfired round would stove-pipe). After a little over 250 rounds through the pistol, one magazine inexplicably became about 90% *reliable* while the other magazine remained about 80% unreliable.
I put a A-Zoom 380 ACP aluminum snap cap in both magazines between the spring and the floor plate. This reduced the magazine capacity to only 7 rounds of course, but the added spring tension seems to have done the trick (both magazine were 100% reliable over 50 rounds fired with only two rounds in each magazine).
It seems like the magazine springs need to be a smidge stronger, but I don't know if S&W has any springs to replace the original ones.
I eagerly await hearing if S&W was able to fix your pistol!
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I woulda let somebody else shoot it before I sent it off, but that's just me . . .
familyman357oh
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I'm not gwoke of course, but the pistol isn't going to feed reliably (which is the bigger issue) just because someone else is shooting it.
I'm not gwoke of course, but the pistol isn't going to feed reliably (which is the bigger issue) just because someone else is shooting it.
Actually, it probably will. The vast majority of failures with semiauto pistols are shooter induced. An improper grip will without a doubt and most certainly induce feeding and extraction issues . . .
familyman357oh
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It's possible, but inadvertent slide rub and "limp wristing" tend to be overly-diagnosed over the Internet. Unfortunately, I'm not lucky enough to have either be the cause of my pistol's troubles.
Duly noted . . .
windhampensacola
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I notice a off and on hang up on one of the original magazines when using the side lever and wonder if anyone else experienced this?
S&WsRsweet
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I tell y'all now I got me one of them old timely revolving guns .try as I might "limp wristing" holding high on the grip,ect and so on it goes bang everytime I pull the trigger .Now it only goes bang 5 times but those five are a sure bet . Just kidding my daughter in law got her an EZ last month and so far no issues but she did get professional instruction from NRA certified lady instructor .There is a big difference in learning curve of shooting an auto as Col.Cooper wrote many years ago.
windhampensacola
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My new M & P Shield 380EZ would not function properly with the Winchester Train & Defend T train 380 Auto FMJ. The gun would shoot the first round and would not shoot the second round until you recycled the slide. Worked fine on Remington, PPG, Critical Defense, & Winchester Kinetic HE
Ah...can see the light.
I was shooting, or trying to shoot, White Box Winchester FMJ with very little consistency of feeding/ejecting. It was giving me chest pains...I really thought I had lost my technique. NOW I think it was the ammo, not me. Maybe a little more spring tension might help me also. I always learn best from others so I think I will benefit much by this site.
I was shooting, or trying to shoot, White Box Winchester FMJ with very little consistency of feeding/ejecting. It was giving me chest pains...I really thought I had lost my technique. NOW I think it was the ammo, not me. Maybe a little more spring tension might help me also. I always learn best from others so I think I will benefit much by this site.
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