M&P 4" compact

[lrmnut]

has anyone put a red dot sight on a 4" M&P compact if so how do you like it and has it been a benefit in anyway?

 

[catcus-jack]

Why take a nice compact pistol and put a big lump on it?

 

[sixguner357]

I did have had it out twice. With old eyes wearing bifocals metallic sites are hard to focus. Red dot does take some getting used to. With that said I do notice I’m sooting better. I was not sure I would like it so I got a cheap bushel to try. That way I would not be out a lot of money if I did not like it. I will we upgrading the site and putting the other on one of my .22’s

 

[Gun Geezer]

I have two 3.6" compacts with trijicon RMRs on them. Both milled by ATEi. My older eyes can't see the iron sights anymore. In my opinion, red dots are the way to go if you have poorer vision. I don't even shoot my other non-red dot handguns or rifles anymore.

 

[The Mighty S&W]

I absolutely love my M&P M2.0 Compact 4 inch. I am still not completely sold on the idea of red dot optics on handguns, but if you’re going blind... why not? For the type of shooting that I use my handguns for, I hardly use the sights, much less do I see a need for an optic. If I were into competition, or shooting for groups at distance, my opinion might change. I mostly do point shooting inside of 10 yards on silhouette targets, and appreciate the ease of concealment that comes with an iron sighted pistol.

 

[9mmPatriot]

Yep, I sure did...and it's my edc.

M&P 2.0 9c
OuterImpact plate
Holosun 407c-GR v2

 

[CGhelofxr]

I put a Leopold deltapoint micro on my shield and really like it. So much so that when I feel a little more comfortable with it I've got a second one for my 4 inch compact.

 

[Tiribulus]

I absolutely love my M&P M2.0 Compact 4 inch... For the type of shooting that I use my handguns for, I hardly use the sights...I mostly do point shooting inside of 10 yards on silhouette targets, and appreciate the ease of concealment that comes with an iron sighted pistol.

Exactly this is my situation too. Including the gun, except, mine is the 3.6.

About 80% of my shooting with either the 45 full size or this one is under ten yards and point shooting. That's what I train for because that's what I'm most likely to encounter in the urban setting where I live.

I do go out to 30 yards or so sometimes just for fun and to keep the skill up, but most of my drills are up close and point shooting.

Far be it from me to tell somebody else what's best for them and I do see the utility for a red dot on a pistol for some folks.

 

[hardluk1]

I have a 2.0 compact 4" 9mm for when I not longer can shoot a 40 or 45 well or eye sight gets worse. I wear trifocals now .

I'm running a holosun 507K-GR X2 . I notice with fiber front sights some years ago I see a green fiber rod better than red but green dot optics were slow to show up but I decided to try a green holosun circle dot on my 2.0 compact 4" . Even my wife liked it so I replaced a RM02 on a CORE with the same green holosun . I used a tube type red dot on a revolver for hunting for 41 years and have one on a 22lr ruger pistol for more accurate plinking for many years now but I find the green 32moa circle very quick to use at typical defensive distances out to 25 but some guy like both the 2moa dot and 32mao circle together . The 2moa dot alone can be to small to see with out hunting for it in a defensive moment in time !!

As it is for now I still carry stock sights . Gold bead on a lw commander and a green front dot on my old m&p 4.24 40sw and use a flash sight picture shooting style now for 33 years of CC .

DO NOT add a dot optic to your primary carry gun as there is a learning curve to get use to .

If your a sight focused " target " shooter now You need to adjust to a flash sight picture shooter then a red dot becomes natural quickly as thats a target / threat style of shooting .

 

[lrmnut]

I am also looking at the holosun 507k-GR x2 for a 4" compact optic ready thats on the way I also have a leupold micro red dot om my Shield plus that is very easy to use and mounts in the rear sight dove tail no optic ready needed I shot my buddies Holosun-GR at ten yards indoors no problem keeping them in the 10 ring at 73 I need a little extra help but to each his own I have always liked to try new things.

Blessed day to all

 

[thereactor]

Red dot sights looks very common on these 4" compacts. Personally I have a M2.0 compact in 45 and refuse to install a red dot. Might have some benefit in ease of sight/focus but I just couldn't bring myself to it personally. Census says however it does fairly well, looks pretty sick too! Not sure of the learning curve on em but I assume it'll take a few boxes of rounds to know 100%.

 

[Kar3859Man]

I installed a 507C holosun on my M&P 2.0 compact. Absolutely love it now. With my eyes I can put the red dot/circle easily on the target. It is my EDC and the RDS doesn't interfere with carrying at all.

 

[The MONK]

I have a DPP on a 2.0 .40. I love it. I also have a SIG R1P on my SIG P320 X Compact. Once you get used to a red dot, it's much easier to pick up a target and stay on target for your next shot.

 

[Tu_S]

Since first putting a red dot on a pistol 2 or 3 years ago, I pretty much budget an optic in for anything new I'm getting, 1911's being a notable exception.

They just make things easier, especially when you get to the age where you need bifocals. I do have a pair of TopFocal glasses which solves the problem of seeing the front sight when at the range, but for EDC I'm not going to have the things, so the added bulk is a trade off I'm willing to make (been using RMRcc's on the micro compacts.)

Of course you also have to look at the purpose of the pistol. For the target pistols like a Model 41 I still prefer getting the TopFocal glasses out and iron sights, but for EDC, a 3 MOA dot will not be as precise as iron sights but is more than good enough.

There is a transition when switching to a red dot. The first thing is getting the presentation figured out if the thing doesn't co-witness. After 2+ years practice with optics, I have to admit I probably still get a set of iron sights up and lined up faster, the dot is fast enough, and I'm not shooting in any competitions. You also need to get used to not concentrating on the sight and more on the target, if that makes any sense.

 

[CouchPotato]

Why take a nice compact pistol and put a big lump on it?

Well first, the location of that "lump" won't compromise concealability or comfort.

The red dot removes the need to align a back sight with a front sight while also keeping eyes on the threat. Managing 3 focal planes under high stress in a defensive situation is a complicated ordeal. Most people experience some level of double vision while doing this which is why we naturally close one eye to aim.

If you've ever had to defend yourself, you know how difficult it is to remove your eyes from the attacker, and you know how quickly things happen.

So with a red dot, you're afforded the ability to easily maintain both eyes open while looking through and past the optic at the threat. While doing so, you maintain an unlimited field of view and there's no blurred or double vision. The gun, optic, and your hands mostly disappear from your field of view and all you see is the threat with a red dot on it, as if your aiming a laser. There’s virtually no parallax either which means you don't have to line up anything or center anything, especially at defensive distances.

The problem with an actual laser is that the dot easily disappears on certian colors of clothing, especially in bright light situations. With a quality optic, the dot will be visible in all scenarios.

So, in summary you can:
- Maintain threat focus with both eyes open and unlimited field of view
- Get on target more quickly (once proficient)
- Achieve accurate follow up shots more quickly

DO NOT add a dot optic to your primary carry gun as there is a learning curve to get use to .

This is extremely good advice.

 

[STORMINORMAN]

Well, there's to be an expected learning curve with almost ANY new ANYTHING, isn't there...?

That's what change is all about. Need to practice to relearn: not all changes work in all situations and for all users.

Cheers!

 

[9mmPatriot]

Get one.
Practice/train with it.


No different that buying any new sight, hand-cannon, shoulder-mortar, etc, etc.

 

[hardluk1]

I guess I failed to pay attention to my tread , sorry folks . I know too the day well come so thats why I now own a 9mm pistol with a dot optic .

I still do not need a dot optic to shoot defensively well . But I know that I will one day so I'll keep up my practice with it . but still carry a 45acp or 40sw for now .