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TeleGuy53
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I would appreciate it. Thanks!
M&P 9 Full Size for CC/Home Defense?
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I would appreciate it. Thanks!
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TeleGuy53
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B149HO CM472B
Wow! I really like this holster, Smoke. What's the model?
First mistake as a first time gun owner, is thinking that you're only going to buy one, so you need one that will do everything you need it to.
You will buy a second. It is better to have tools suited to the task. Buy a smaller sized gun that you will want to carry. It will still work fine for the home.
Then you'll notice a slight burning sensation that urges you to buy a second firearm. Then you can step up to a full sized number for the home that you can hang a weaponlight off of. This will be easier to shoot, making range time more fun and home defense versatile.
You will buy a second. It is better to have tools suited to the task. Buy a smaller sized gun that you will want to carry. It will still work fine for the home.
Then you'll notice a slight burning sensation that urges you to buy a second firearm. Then you can step up to a full sized number for the home that you can hang a weaponlight off of. This will be easier to shoot, making range time more fun and home defense versatile.
The numbers on the top of my post is what's on the holster
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TeleGuy53
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You're right, McE. Whenever I tell a gunshop owner, salesman, trainer or another gun owner, that I'm only going to buy one pistol, they just roll their eyes at me. They don't know me.
The simple fact of the matter is that I mean what I say. I'm only going to purchase one pistol, so that pistol will need to be able to serve both roles: CC AND home defense.
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TeleGuy53
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Yep. I put that number into my search and get "No results".
Let me get back to you
Yep. I put that number into my search and get "No results".
Search Galco CM472B
Harkrader
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So VERY much of that decision is personal.
If you can, find a gun range that will rent one to you.
One of our sons is a LEO. He changed departments a few years ago, and the current one issues Glocks.
His previous one allowed choices, including the M&P9. I have been a Sig man since the early '80s and poo-pooed anything striker fired. (Yeah, I know, now Sig makes one.)
I taught him to shoot, Sigs, of course. So one day we are at the club, me with my Sigs, he with his M&P, along with a friend from the department. They sounded as though they were firing full-auto while I plunked along, and were eating the centers out of targets at 25 meters. Humbling.
So I got a M&P in my favorite caliber, 357Sig. I shot it very well. For a couple reasons, I am now favoring striker-fired guns. I have since picked up a M&P9 Pro. Little bigger gun, still an excellent home defense cartridge.
I also put a Streamlight on a mount from Safariland, one with "on", "flash" and "strobe". The mount puts the button on the rear right at my thumb. Love it, and I can use it on either gun.
NOTE: You ABSOLUTELY MUST train (test fire) with the gun with the light installed because it can affect function.
It's my opinion that you should also have tritium sights, even if the only thing you think they are good for is finding your gun in the dark. *I* think they are worth a whole lot more.
Welcome to a world with a cornucopia of choices!
If you can, find a gun range that will rent one to you.
One of our sons is a LEO. He changed departments a few years ago, and the current one issues Glocks.
His previous one allowed choices, including the M&P9. I have been a Sig man since the early '80s and poo-pooed anything striker fired. (Yeah, I know, now Sig makes one.)
I taught him to shoot, Sigs, of course. So one day we are at the club, me with my Sigs, he with his M&P, along with a friend from the department. They sounded as though they were firing full-auto while I plunked along, and were eating the centers out of targets at 25 meters. Humbling.
So I got a M&P in my favorite caliber, 357Sig. I shot it very well. For a couple reasons, I am now favoring striker-fired guns. I have since picked up a M&P9 Pro. Little bigger gun, still an excellent home defense cartridge.
I also put a Streamlight on a mount from Safariland, one with "on", "flash" and "strobe". The mount puts the button on the rear right at my thumb. Love it, and I can use it on either gun.
NOTE: You ABSOLUTELY MUST train (test fire) with the gun with the light installed because it can affect function.
It's my opinion that you should also have tritium sights, even if the only thing you think they are good for is finding your gun in the dark. *I* think they are worth a whole lot more.
Welcome to a world with a cornucopia of choices!
I don't know you either, but the answer is the same as if you asked 'which should I buy first'
I think the smaller gun has fewer downsides in the HD role than the fullsize has downsides in the carry role.
PSC617
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Great advice, McE. Just passed this advice along to three civilian workmates last month. Two listened, third just texted me from the LGS getting his compact. I tried to explain the natural instinct of wanting to carry small...sleep full--and have options.
An earlier member posted and questioned how many posters are claiming they're rolling around work places in their business attire with hand cannons hanging off waist bands or strapped to their bellies...it is beyond me how they do this and effectively/efficiently remain prepared and tactical. What really kills me are the Guys carrying alongside their Johnson. I wouldn't make it through a meeting #1 or an afternoon full of seated emails and office calls.
Talk about uncomfortable...yikes--good luck with that.It truly is a matter of personal option, confidence, comfort-level, and training. Everyone is different.
For concealment, I can barely get away with a baby Glock in a suit...and typically downsize to a single stack slimline in a CBST quickly if I am bouncing around without a blazer or suit coat. I work in a downtown building, take metro transit, and live in a large metro neighborhood--it's a dynamic environment. I require multiple tools for the gym, shopping/dining, driving, camping, home defense, business travel and office work. Weather and attire is always a factor. I've never been able to find the "one" that does it all...or maybe that's my excuse?
Been carrying on/off duty since 1989 -- there are no magic beans. I don't like to settle. Good luck everyone, YMMV.
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Motorsporting
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It's a great choice for both, which is why I made it mine ... I have several holsters to CCW for it, but my favorite is Kramer. It's a versatile, sturdy rig and seems to disappear under almost every clothing option (including t-shirts). Don't forget a good, dedicated, gun belt. Eighteen rounds and a Surefire at night make it perfect for an easy, reliable, and comforting home defense tool.
Inside the Waistband Holsters IWB
Inside the Waistband Holsters IWB
Just realized I had posted this list of potential CC pistols, sorted by height, in another forum.
Hope it is of use to the OP or others looking for a CCW:
Hope it is of use to the OP or others looking for a CCW:
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TeleGuy53
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Great work, Llando88.
Hence, my revised short list, in order of preference:
Walther PPQ M2, Length 7.1" Height 5.3" Barrel 4.0" Width 1.3" 15 Rds
Glock 19, Length 7.4" Height 5.0" Barrel: 4.0" width 1.2" 15 rds
HK VP9, Length 7.3" Height 5.4" Barrel 4.1" Width 1.3" 15 rds*
M&P FS9, Length 7.6" Height 5.5" Barrel 4.3" Width 1.2" 17 rds*
Hence, my revised short list, in order of preference:
Walther PPQ M2, Length 7.1" Height 5.3" Barrel 4.0" Width 1.3" 15 Rds
Glock 19, Length 7.4" Height 5.0" Barrel: 4.0" width 1.2" 15 rds
HK VP9, Length 7.3" Height 5.4" Barrel 4.1" Width 1.3" 15 rds*
M&P FS9, Length 7.6" Height 5.5" Barrel 4.3" Width 1.2" 17 rds*
I would carry any gun on that list.
I'm also on the hunt for a smaller CCW, but my issue is I'd like a smaller version of my game (Steel Challenge) gun, which is the VP9. So, I'll be waiting for HK to release the VP9SK at SHOT in January (so I hope, lol.)
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TeleGuy53
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I'm back in the hunt, Llando88...
My new short list is:
Walther PPQ M2
Glock 17
Sig Sauer P320 Carry
M&P FS9
Regarding the M&P FS9, I'm concerned about two things: 1) long-range accuracy, and 2) quality control (it has been reported that there may be an issue with defective barrels).
Are you familiar with these issues?
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Ranger17
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Not sure what your level of accuracy desired is but in my humble opinion (from one still learning and who has crappy eyes) up to at least 10 yds-- if I can be pretty good with it then one with real skill and experience should really shine. Pics attached were at 8 & 10 yds; i cant speak for long distance but considering these are more of a defensive handgun seems for what they are made to do they can do quite well..
I've only had my FS since summer but hundreds of rounds with zero issue so far should account for something. Seems I've read that SW did some upgrades to the compact and FS models over the past year or two on barrels, etc but long term MP owners can add probably more info there.
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This thread has a good set of posts by Randy Lee of Apex on FS9 accuracy:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/451019-accuracy-coming-apex-m-p-barrels.html
