M&P 9 Shield -vs- M&P9c

[kris7047th]

Other than comparing size and weight, not sure it is fair to compare a Gen 3 vs. M&P. To me they are two totally different animals. My Gen 3s were retired when I started carrying M&Ps. Not so much from a reliability or capability standpoint, but more so for commonality and familiarity. Didn't want to mix carry between a double action auto and two stage system. Totally different trigger pulls. Not to mention my M&Ps have the thumb safety as well.

I am getting so tired of these vs threads .. well this gun is better than that gun etc. Why can't people just decide on what the particular model offers and if it fits their criteria or not? We are not all alike and why there are SOoooo many different styles of weapons.

I have the M&P9c and I do not compare it to the Shield (except the trigger work I had done is nearly identical on both .. and that is good) Will I get rid of my 9c now that I have acquired the Shield ?? Heck no!

 

[deebosc]

I've always liked my 9c but its just a weeeeeeeeee bigger in grip than I would prefer.

This.. as much as i loved my 9C it was just not comfortable IWB for me. It was a great gun but the Shield is a perfect fit and feels so much better tucked compared to the compact. Doesnt bother me sacrificing a few rounds, im happy to know i can comfortably sit, stand, kneel, drive, etc and hardly notice its there. I initially thought i wanted the PPS but the Shield feels MUCH better in hand and if its anything like its big brothers, reliability will not be an issue.

 

[Lee in Quartzsite]

It's a good thing I have a good gun belt...9c in my Crossbeed Supertuck, a Shield in my right pocket, 642 in my left pocket, two Mags on my belt......

 

[LOBO]

Does the shield have an internal key lock?

 

[ponchsox]

I love my M&P9c and added its little brother, the Shield. Both are great guns in their own rights. The Shield will become my primary carry in no time.

 

[Lee in Quartzsite]

Does the shield have an internal key lock?

No, and no Mag Safety as well. It does have a Thumb Safety. The trigger and trigger reset are just like the other M&P's. I actually installed an Apex kit on my 9c and the Shield trigger feels just as good right out of the box. Impressive gun...now my wife wants one. She put a hold on one today, picking it up tomorrow. She had an LC-9 that she grew to dislike immensely so she traded it in for a LCR.

 

[Water-Man]

Lots of interest here for the Shield!!! Anyone interested but shying away from the first production run to let the bugs get worked out?

Me. Also, I really don't want the safety. We'll see.

 

[LOBO]

No, and no Mag Safety as well. It does have a Thumb Safety. The trigger and trigger reset are just like the other M&P's. I actually installed an Apex kit on my 9c and the Shield trigger feels just as good right out of the box. Impressive gun...now my wife wants one. She put a hold on one today, picking it up tomorrow. She had an LC-9 that she grew to dislike immensely so she traded it in for a LCR.

THANKS!!!!

 

[jdh]

Did Ruger stop making/selling the SR9C when they released the LC9?

As has been said different uses, both are still needed. The M&P9c makes a better back up for the full size then the Shield because it allows you to use the mags for your full size in the compact. Can't use them in the Shield.

 

[smithkowitz]

I understand the Shield is slightly smaller and lighter but am I the only one confused by this new line-up?

What am i missing here?

I am not sure what there is to be confused about, or what you could be missing? The Shield is designed for those who want a lighter, smaller package to carry conceal. If the gun holds anywhere from 3 to 10 rounds less than it's larger brothers, that in itself can amount to a reasonable amount of weight. It is also for those who have smaller hands and cannot handle the larger Compact or Full Size. There are also states that do impose 10 round magazine restrictions. A Compact 9 packs 12 in standard issue. I have both a Full size and Compact 9 and 40, I do not carry any of them. I carry a Kahr MK40. I am looking to purchase the Shield 40 to become a new carry piece. I only pack one of the larger M&P's during winter, when I wear a heavier coat; or I pack it in a backpack as backup when I hike. At home, the larger M&P's are nice nightstand companions.

 

[High Altitude]

I'm not allowed to get another gun (stupid wife) until Sept./Oct.

Get right brother, you are talking about your wife..........

 

[lipster]

Maybe not for so much longer. They have a way of sensing attitudes....

 

[mpk4949]

holster for shield

This.. as much as i loved my 9C it was just not comfortable IWB for me. It was a great gun but the Shield is a perfect fit and feels so much better tucked compared to the compact. Doesnt bother me sacrificing a few rounds, im happy to know i can comfortably sit, stand, kneel, drive, etc and hardly notice its there. I initially thought i wanted the PPS but the Shield feels MUCH better in hand and if its anything like its big brothers, reliability will not be an issue.

What make and model of Holster do you use for your shield?

 

[IllinoisCCW]

I use my Smith Desantis speed scabbard made for M&P compacts. Tighten the tension screw...fits like a glove. The shield is only slightly shorter than the compacts.


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[snajper69]

So now what happens to the M&P9c and M&P40c? Isn't this similar to what S&W did with the Sigma -vs- SD line? I understand the Shield is slightly smaller and lighter but am I the only one confused by this new line-up?

Given the dimensions of the M&P 40 Shield are similar to the 9 Shield, why do I carry the Shield -vs- 40c? Because I can't handle the extra 1.3" length, .3" width/height or an additional 7 oz? I understand S&W is going after a very popular CCW market right now but does this mean that the 9c & 40c is going to slowly die off? What am i missing here?

Shield: (edited mag capacity, oal, oah, oaw, weight)
Caliber: 9mm
Capacity: 7+1, 8+1 (magazine with grip extension) M&P9c 10+1 (CA) 12+1
Operation: Trigger cocking DAO; lock breech; "Browning - type" recoil lug; passive striker block; no magazine disconnect
Barrel: 3.1", polygonal rifling; 1 - 10 right-hand twist
Length O/A: 6.1" M&P9c 6.7" (+.6")
Height: 4.6" M&P9c 4.3" (-.3")
Slide Width: .95" M&P9c 1.2" (+.25")
Weight: Pistol 19 ounces, Magazine 1.9 ounces M&P9c 21.7 oz, Mag 9.1 oz
Grips: Textured polymer
Sights: Drift adjustable, white bar-dot combat sights
Finish: Black polymer frame, matte stainless steel slide
Magazines: 1 each: 7 rd flush floorplate & 8 rd extended grip

I own M&P 40c and I still went ahead and got myself shield in 9mm. It is a big difference, you need to handle both of them to understand. I needed something smaller, didn't care about pocket gun, but wanted to make sure that when wearing shirt and tie, it won't print as much as my 40c, shield is doing that trick for me. I don't care about the capacity so the slimmer version of a trusted pistol, is no brainer for me. It comes down to personal tastes.

 

[IllinoisCCW]

I own M&P 40c and I still went ahead and got myself shield in 9mm. It is a big difference, you need to handle both of them to understand. I needed something smaller, didn't care about pocket gun, but wanted to make sure that when wearing shirt and tie, it won't print as much as my 40c, shield is doing that trick for me. I don't care about the capacity so the slimmer version of a trusted pistol, is no brainer for me. It comes down to personal tastes.

Totally agree. For me there is a big difference between the compact and shield. I've been wearing my shield all and forgot I had it on. Never experience that with my compacts.


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[snajper69]

Did you get the 9mm or the 40?? I'm thinking about getting the 40 myself. Just as soon as they start shipping them out.

I myself got 9mm for one reason only that thin gun would be handful in 40 S&W.

 

[snajper69]

Totally agree. For me there is a big difference between the compact and shield. I've been wearing my shield all and forgot I had it on. Never experience that with my compacts.


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I think it comes down to the close you are wearing, when I wear my typical weekend attire, t-shirt + loose shirt I don't mind wearing my 40c. But anything thinner I would rather have my shield on me. I am well aware of my 40c. And I am 6'3" 250lb guy, and Shield 9 just disappears on me.

Just do add on I think the "c's" and "shield's" complement each other. would I own shield in 40? Nope. 40c is plenty for me.

 

[IllinoisCCW]

I think it comes down to the close you are wearing, when I wear my typical weekend attire, t-shirt + loose shirt I don't mind wearing my 40c. But anything thinner I would rather have my shield on me. I am well aware of my 40c. And I am 6'3" 250lb guy, and Shield 9 just disappears on me.

Yep. I'm 6' 2''. 210lbs. The shield will be great for summer wear. During the winter I can carry FS depending what I'm wearing and where I'm going. All personal preference.


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[nframes4me]

Me. Also, I really don't want the safety. We'll see.

A friend of mine has an M&P without a slide lock safety. The is a blank pin in the hole in the frame where it would normally go.

I'd like to see this option on the shield. There is not any more reason for a safety on striker fired or DA only pistol as there is on a DA revolver. Glocks don't have them and either do the compact Sigs, Kahrs, Keltecs, or Beretta Nanos.

It's just sopmething else to have to think about in a stress situation that doesn't have an busines being ther in the first place except that lawyers and politician who know nothing about guns insist upon it.