M&P 9mm FS or Pro or CORE?

[k31scout]

How different are the triggers between these 3 models? Would an Apex DCAEK kit in a FS be equal to the trigger in the Pro or Core?

 

[DocSunShine]

How different are the triggers between these 3 models? Would an Apex DCAEK kit in a FS be equal to the trigger in the Pro or Core?

It would be better, why not go FSS?

Also, CORE with red dot sucks, it's over rated. It didn't improve my accuracy and decreased speed. Trijicon HD's for the win.

 

[k31scout]

It would be better, why not go FSS?

That is the question I'm struggling with. DCAEK better $, FSS best $$. I wish I could spend a day with each, side by side.

 

[forrestinmathews]

I don't need a 40-9 conversion barrel? Just plop a 9mm barrel into my 40FS, get some 9mm mags and I'm good to go?
No breech-barrel match up issues?

Nope the dimensions are the same with the M&P. Now do some RESEARCH and please stop trying to take over the thread. You're coming on like you're the OP and sidetracking things. Not generally a likeable quality. Waiting until the OP's excitement and activity has died down and then asking your questions is better.

That is a great idea, but...

I think you're already in it the 9mm mags because you're buying the gun right? Are you not going to buy spare mags? With two factory 9mm barrels you'd be good to go. The grip extensions fill the gap with compact's frame reducing the size of your fleet of magazines by allowing the 9mm mags to do double duty.

It's not as easy(instant gratifcation) per say, but it takes up so much less space in the cabinet and your more likely to actually use the guns converted instead of ending up with more stuff sitting on the sidelines...your mileage may vary.

You said range/target use. I am not aware that targets can tell the difference between .40 and 9mm, but the wallet sure can. If you want a toy, buy a toy. Don't go thinking that the pro and core are factory Apex, because they aren't. The way you're talking, you're going to buy the core in whatever caliber, end up with converting the internals to Apex, and then buying a match barrel or conversion anyway so here goes: Sell all but one of your M&P's I'd suggest you keep the .40 compact. Then buy a 9mm core 5", Apex it to the gills, fit it with the delta point, change the sights to Dawson Precision tritium high profile. Now you've got an awesome range toy that could be a nightstand gun if you wanted it to. Take the internals that came out and drop them into the compact 40 and you've got two great guns. If you had money left over you could put trijicon HD on your compact.

 

[forrestinmathews]

Can't put a .40 in a 9mm slide. Outside diameter is too big.

Is this core and pro specific?? The fullsize and compacts are indentical in dimension. S&W is pretty cost cutting whenever they can get away with keeping dimensions similar. Less things to retool...

 

[Bkreutz]

That is the question I'm struggling with. DCAEK better $, FSS best $$. I wish I could spend a day with each, side by side.

I used my Pro core for a while with the stock trigger, it was better than my FS but still not what I wanted. I put the Apex FSS and it's much better IMO, the advantage to me is not the pull weight or even the crispness of the trigger but the elimination of the pre and post travel. Look at post 18 of this thread (http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/322411-wow-apex-fss-t-kit.html) for the actual measurements of the difference. Hope this helps. I shot without the reflex sight for a while but after putting the Deltapoint on, it's spoiled me, Now I don't use this pistol for IDPA anymore (even though I could take the sight off and shoot it in ESP) I just pulled my FS9 out of the dungeon.

 

[AGoyette]

I have a 2010 5" 9mm Pro and 2 9c's. My Pro I got used and I did not have an issue with it shooting low. My 9c never shot low, I got it new. I put about 700 rounds through it before adding Apex parts. The husband's 9c was also new. It appeared to shoot low for him. He had me shoot it and I had the same issue. After I contacted the company that made the FO front sight (the only change I had made to the gun) and complained I had the gunsmith shoot it. He put it in a rest and shot it. The issue was us. I guess we both got used to the much improved trigger on my 9c. His should not have been all that different from mine since they were made a day apart, but they were. After putting the DCAEK kit and polymer trigger in his gun (the same changes I made to my 9c) he can shoot out a 1" diameter sticker on the target.
Long story short, your gun shooting low might be you reacting to the stock trigger.

 

[forrestinmathews]

Yes he can shoot out a 1" sticker, but with all things marksmanship, at what distance?

 

[irwing]

I have 2 M&P CORE's both with RMRs

I own both the 9MM S&W M&P CORE 5 inch and also the 40SW S&W M&P CORE 5inch. I love them both, great guns, well made.
I also installed a Trijicon RM06 on both of them and they co-witness fine. The problem with the Deltapoints is the locking screw on the rear and also the fact it doesn't have a click for windage/elevation. The Trijicon RM06 costs a bit more but you get what you pay for and they are a perfect fit for the M&P PRO CORE.

Enjoy

 

[Roger S&W]

Nope the dimensions are the same with the M&P. Now do some RESEARCH and please stop trying to take over the thread. You're coming on like you're the OP and sidetracking things. Not generally a likeable quality. Waiting until the OP's excitement and activity has died down and then asking your questions is better.



I think you're already in it the 9mm mags because you're buying the gun right? Are you not going to buy spare mags? With two factory 9mm barrels you'd be good to go. The grip extensions fill the gap with compact's frame reducing the size of your fleet of magazines by allowing the 9mm mags to do double duty.

It's not as easy(instant gratifcation) per say, but it takes up so much less space in the cabinet and your more likely to actually use the guns converted instead of ending up with more stuff sitting on the sidelines...your mileage may vary.

You said range/target use. I am not aware that targets can tell the difference between .40 and 9mm, but the wallet sure can. If you want a toy, buy a toy. Don't go thinking that the pro and core are factory Apex, because they aren't. The way you're talking, you're going to buy the core in whatever caliber, end up with converting the internals to Apex, and then buying a match barrel or conversion anyway so here goes: Sell all but one of your M&P's I'd suggest you keep the .40 compact. Then buy a 9mm core 5", Apex it to the gills, fit it with the delta point, change the sights to Dawson Precision tritium high profile. Now you've got an awesome range toy that could be a nightstand gun if you wanted it to. Take the internals that came out and drop them into the compact 40 and you've got two great guns. If you had money left over you could put trijicon HD on your compact.

You brought up the topic. I just simply asked a question to verify one simple point. I should have waited until the OP's emotional excitement subsided before I asked my question? Thanks for answering the technical question. I appreciate that. Do us all a favor though? Forget about emotionally evaluating the OP's excitement level ebbs and flows and then dictating to the rest of us the proper etiquette and specific timing of asking relevant questions. These are unlikable qualities.

 

[wingnuut]

Buy a storm lake conversion 9mm barrel for your 40fs now you have a 9mm and you can still buy a gun.

 

[forrestinmathews]

You brought up the topic. I just simply asked a question to verify one simple point. I should have waited until the OP's emotional excitement subsided before I asked my question? Thanks for answering the technical question. I appreciate that. Do us all a favor though? Forget about emotionally evaluating the OP's excitement level ebbs and flows and then dictating to the rest of us the proper etiquette and specific timing of asking relevant questions. These are unlikable qualities.

On the first point, you're welcome. On the second it is so incredibly unfortunate that you took umbrage to my previous comment. Thirdly, because I love to answer questions: What's this that all the pros are shooting low? They're competition guns for Idpa and USPSA production division. The nines were setup for 147's and the .40's for 180 to 200 gr bullets. Handloads with the lowest recoil potential while still making power factor, not factory ammo. Go to Dawson precision and get a new front sight...after you're darn certain you aren't jerking the trigger with arcade marksmanship.

 

[Roger S&W]

On the first point, you're welcome. On the second it is so incredibly unfortunate that you took umbrage to my previous comment. Thirdly, because I love to answer questions: What's this that all the pros are shooting low? They're competition guns for Idpa and USPSA production division. The nines were setup for 147's and the .40's for 180 to 200 gr bullets. Handloads with the lowest recoil potential while still making power factor, not factory ammo. Go to Dawson precision and get a new front sight...after you're darn certain you aren't jerking the trigger with arcade marksmanship.

I've been trying my best to research this problem, however I've not come across the info. you've just provided. It's been a frustrating experience for me. Much gratitude.