M&P Shield 9 garbage wish I hadn't bought

[2tango2]

So the gun shop owner "took it back" and sold it to somebody else? Did he warranty it?

He said that the gun shop took it back and would be sending it back to S&W I live near the OP and was interested in purchasing it if he did decide to go another direction.

In between the original posting and last night I found myself a NIB Shield so everything worked out

 

[Lost Lake]

I can just see the gun shop owner pacing the floors wondering when he will get more Shields in... he gets a hundred calls a day begging for a Shield.... People willing to pay hundreds over MSRP and he can't get them...

Then somebody walks in the door with a Shield! He doesn't like it! It hangs up on him, his girlfriend doesn't want it, can the owner look at it and tell him if it's okay???

Heck no! This thing is JUNK! You should turn it in right now! I'll give you all your money back, and sell you this other gun over here...

Personally, I would have sent it to S&W if it had a problem. These things are so hot right now.... Just sayin'

 

[pyro]

Forum members are willing to help, but the sympathy card has been worked to death. Your gun is junk, mine isn't and neither are thousands of others.

 

[gdauth]

How does she grasp the slide when she pulls it back? If she is not doing it right it will be harder rack the slide.

 

[gdauth]

Forum members are willing to help, but the sympathy card has been worked to death. Your gun is junk, mine isn't and neither are thousands of others.

Perhaps this guy is a Glock rep,

 

[feelinlucky]

A new product in extremely high demand, and short supply.
A new product perhaps in need of some basic break-in, or perhaps even some warranty attention.
A new owner with unrealistic expectations of this product.

A company with a customer service department staffed by humans.
A new owner with unrealistic expectations of this company's customer service.

Bad combination.

 

[18DAI]

So if you bump the Shields slide out of battery - it stays out of battery? Is this true?

And nobody here sees a problem with that "feature"? ? ?

So, when you are grappling with an attacker at close range, which subcompacts are generally carried for, and your Shields slide gets "bumped" out of battery, what is your next course of action? Call time out? Draw your J-frame? Rack it on your holster?

Or are all you Shield fans using these guns as range toys? Regards 18DAI

 

[Lost Lake]

So if you bump the Shields slide out of battery - it stays out of battery? Is this true?

And nobody here sees a problem with that "feature"? ? ?

So, when you are grappling with an attacker at close range, which subcompacts are generally carried for, and your Shields slide gets "bumped" out of battery, what is your next course of action? Call time out? Draw your J-frame? Rack it on your holster?

Or are all you Shield fans using these guns as range toys? Regards 18DAI

Same problem I had when all the Shield lovers were claiming this is normal. None of my semi-autos do this, and I have a LOT of semi-autos.

So I bought a Shield and gave it a test. It DOES hang out of battery and that is NOT acceptable for reasons stated. And I would sell it, but .....

It does go into battery when pressure is put on the trigger. I haven't looked into what I can polish yet, and it hangs up less now that it has a few hundred rounds through it, but it will still hang until the trigger is moved....

Maybe I'll do a video on how to fix the problem... And it is a problem folks.

 

[M29since14]

So if you bump the Shields slide out of battery - it stays out of battery? Is this true?

And nobody here sees a problem with that "feature"? ? ? ...

I wouldn't be happy if mine did that. (It doesn't - but I think I will check again since everyone is making such a big deal of it. ) My Shield is a 9mm. I imagine the .40s are REALLY stiff.

 

[2tango2]

I wouldn't be happy if mine did that. (It doesn't - but I think I will check again since everyone is making such a big deal of it. ) My Shield is a 9mm. I imagine the .40s are REALLY stiff.

9 and 40 have same guts other than barrel, magazines and breech face dimensions no? In other words aren't the recoil springs the same?

 

[feelinlucky]

So if you bump the Shields slide out of battery - it stays out of battery? Is this true?
And nobody here sees a problem with that "feature"? ? ?
So, when you are grappling with an attacker at close range, which subcompacts are generally carried for, and your Shields slide gets "bumped" out of battery, what is your next course of action? Call time out? Draw your J-frame? Rack it on your holster?
Or are all you Shield fans using these guns as range toys? Regards 18DAI

I noticed that my .40 Shield had a very noticeable tight spot in the slide at the described point about a quarter inch out of battery. The slide would never actually hang there either empty, or chambering a round though. That's the point where the slide starts to push the barrel up the locking ramp into battery. You can feel the same thing to a much lesser degree on several other guns of the same design. I'm guessing it's more pronounced on the Shield because the ramp is steeper. It's easy enough to see that some Shields might be a little tighter, or the ramp on the barrel or some other sliding point in the action is not as smooth, and the slide might actually stop there. This tight spot on my Shield has smoothed up considerably after only a couple of hundred rounds.

I did notice that if I held the slide at this point and pulled on the trigger, the trigger wanted to pull the slide forward into battery.

So in answer to your question, if the slide did happen to get pulled out of battery, you might not even notice, because if you pull the trigger, the trigger will pull it into battery, and the gun will go bang like it is supposed to.

 

[Badpe48]

What do you consider rude? Was it the fact that she probably told you "If you operate the gun properly, you won't have a problem". Just Wondering!

 

[Mapko]

About a month ago I also posted "Dissapointed with my Shield" in this forum. The problem was that the slide would "stick" in the open position about twice per mag ( 9mm). Needless to say, my confidence level factor deflated instantly so I posted my problem herein anticipating suggestions. And suggestions did come. Mostly in the vein of "let it break in" variety. Break it in I did and it now works FLAWLESSLY.
I must however say that I DID come VERY close to getting mad

Mark
" ...from my cold dead hands... "

 

[ammodave]

Let's not take the OP too seriously. He joined the forum in Jan solely to bash the Shield (and S&W customer service) and then claims to have bought a $1000+ EMP to replace it.

 

[OneJzsupra]

I just called CS today actually and went pretty smooth might I add.

 

[Smitty357]

My Shield is of course my EDC. So it is "always" hot no matter where its at. No need to rack it back for any reason. If your life is in danger and you have to charge ANY weapon, u may as well just go ahead and throw the weapon at the person or else its game over for you.

My ole lady has no problem charging my .40 or her 9mm at any given time. And her friends also dont seem to have problem with it. Obviously mine and hers are both broken it very good.

PS: After its broken in good, there are 2 things that change.

#1 The springs in mag gets a little worn. Making the mag easier to load by hand, but not worn enough to cause feeding issues.

#2 The recoil spring also gets broken in and worn a little. This in return makes the weapon easier to slide.

A little use and a little maintenance will go a long ways.

PS: To the OP, its only fair that if u hate the weapon so much. Maybe you should sell it to someone at a reasonable price who would love to put their hands on such a rare weapon. This way everyone will be happy, IMO.

 

[skip4309]

Riding the slide on any auto is a no...no...in my book. Bought the 'ole lady' one and she can't do the slide thing either. I've shot it hundreds of times and just love it....very nice piece of hardware in my book (Shield9).
Buy her a (5 shot) revolver...thats what I'm thinking of doing....

 

[mrmrules]

So if you bump the Shields slide out of battery - it stays out of battery? Is this true?

And nobody here sees a problem with that "feature"? ? ?

So, when you are grappling with an attacker at close range, which subcompacts are generally carried for, and your Shields slide gets "bumped" out of battery, what is your next course of action? Call time out? Draw your J-frame? Rack it on your holster?

Or are all you Shield fans using these guns as range toys? Regards 18DAI

Well said, thank you. If you were an experienced driver who normally drove a stick shift car and you bought a new stick shift car and pulled out of the dealership parking lot and went to shift from third to fourth and it made a grinding noise you would turn the radio off and slow down and try to duplicate it. If every single time you shifted the car it made the grinding noise you would bring the car back. If the service dept told you thats normal you have to shift at redline 6,000 rpms ONLY to not get it to grind you would laugh at the guy and want it fixed. To everyone who defends the gun and takes it personally to heart like I am making fun of their mother, I am happy that you love the gun but I can tell you I would want nothing to do with this in my experience unreliable gun if I actually was presented with a situation where it needed to be used to defend my life or hers.

Someone else mentioned the Springfield XDs 9 and I am planning to def grab one of those when they come out. One of my favorite guns is my XDM 9 3.8 so if this little guy is anything like its brother I will def be adding one to the collection.

Also someone thought it was unbelievable that we returned the shield and spent more money to get the emp? I don't see what's so unbelievable about that? I didn't claim I could tell the future and predict winning lotto numbers or anything like that not sure what was so unreal about it...

Anyways 300 rounds through the EMP and shes loving it. No issues. I even snuck a few rounds through it when she wasn't home but dont tell her

When responding to the emails of people who had an interest in the shield before I took it back I invited all local members who pm'd me to my home where I have a somewhat range set up in the yard to shoot the shield. If anyone local does not have a place to shoot and would like to come by and shoot there is an open invitation. Its an outside setup but I know neighboring towns dont allow shooting outside. Thank you

 

[mrmrules]

And please people don't confuse "riding the slide" with a defective gun. The shop owner (who is my girlfriends co workers husband) deemed the gun defective that's why he took it back.

Sure we could have called smith and wesson back again or had the shop owner send then gun in and waited weeks to get it back and hope it was right. But after dealing with the dissapointment of a brand new out of the box defective gun and rude customer service plus weeks of repair and return time being out the gun we did not want to give the gun a second chance. What's so hard to comprehend about that??????? It's like some of the posters are so obsessed with the gun they refuse to see it's faults and can't even understand that the gun could possibly have ever been defective because it's god in their eyes. It's zombies like this that most likely voted for hope and change!!!!

 

[feelinlucky]

No. No zombies here. Only a vastly overwhelming number of people who know that the Shield is not "garbage." And the tone of that last post kinda explains the reaction of the CS person at S&W.

What's so hard to comprehend about that???????