M&P subcompact

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Evening all,

I went to my lgs to get a 4" compact and walked out with the subcompact instead. I had no intention of going subcompact, heck didn't even know it existed, but in the end, I felt that by purchasing the 15 and 17 round mags and utilizing sleeves, I had the best of both worlds?

I compared the 3.6" to the 4" and 5". Love thanks way it feels in had. I generally carry my shield 2.0 or glock 26. This one is the same size as the 26 with added rounds. I have a p365 that I carry but since it had to take a ride back to the mothership, I don't have as much faith in the 365.

I'm happy with the new subcompact. Love to hear from others who have experience with it.

Just picked it up this evening so haven't had a chance to put any rounds down range yet.

Rick
 
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My sub-compact is about the most natural pointing pistol that I have. You will really like it. Keep an eye open for used 17 round mags as they turn up from time to time. I have not bothered to add a sleeve yet but I also do not slam them home that hard. Good Luck and enjoy your new pistol.
 
Mine should be arriving at the FFL today, won't get to shoot it until this weekend. I have a 2.0 Compact manual safety for a couple of weeks and like it, had to remove some of the bite on the grips. I really hope that the subcompact doesn't pinch at the magazine (I get pinch from most of the G26 magazine options) which can get annoying on long sessions.
 
I too am hoping that it has no bite. I'd like the option of carrying the 15 round mag using the sleeve, especially during the winter months when it would be easier to conceal.

I'll probably get to shoot mine the end of the week. I hope it shoots and feels like many talk about the compact.
 
Interesting. I've been considering ditching my P365 for one of these as well. My P365 went back for a broken striker and Sig replaced the complete upper. Still, my confidence in it has been shaken a little.
 
Interesting. I've been considering ditching my P365 for one of these as well. My P365 went back for a broken striker and Sig replaced the complete upper. Still, my confidence in it has been shaken a little.


Mine too. Ive shot it a bunch to reaffirm it's ok, but in the back of my mind, the damn thing broke once.

I haven't shot the subcompact 3.6" yet but can assure you that it feels great in hand and if it has a similar track record as the 3.6" compact, should be a winner
 
Have the 1.0 compact, known today as the 2.0 subcompact. Runs flawlessly, mine came with 2-10 rd mags back in the day but have purchased 17 rd mag with spacer. Still stock with a 6-12oz trigger, no complaints there, planning to polishing internals to smooth, sear, safety block and transfer bar, striker etc.

I hear the 2.0 version is a much improved model in feel and function. Have not handled one yet but its on my radar along with the 15 rd model 11521 Just have to get to my LGS. I will probably opt for the 11521. I believe that one has a 4 1/4" barrel, and of course a longer grip area.

Then after that looking for a true pocket carry. Right now Bodyguard 380 or Sig 365 kahr p380 would be nice but man its up there in price.
 
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I absolutely love my 1.0 compact w/ an Apex duty/carry kit installed. It is my main carry pistol. Now in the winter I carry w/ a 17 rnd mag in it. When it gets warmer and I no longer wear a coat I use the 14 rnd mag. From all I read the 2.0 is great also and nearly identical in size so I am betting you really like yours.
 
I picked mine up yesterday and will try to shoot it tomorrow. Tonight I will hit the grips with some sandpaper and remove a little from the back left of the frame to make riding the thumb safety a little more comfortable (I also did this on my Compact). The mags don't seem to pinch when I grip it hard and move the baseplates around. If this works out it will replace my 365MS and relegate that to deeper carry needs.
 
I bought one right after thanksgiving and love it. I also have a 2.0 4" compact and a shield. The other two are great guns as well but have stayed in the safe since I got the subcompact. Since it can use the 12, 15 and 17 round mags it is just so versatile and for whatever reason I shoot the subcompact better than the compact. Probably hanging on to all three but I'm having to work to justify why I shouldn't trade in the compact for another fun gun!
 
I've been posting (read that: bragging) on how much I love my Performance Center M&P SubCompact. Damn fine handgun that I shoot more accurately than any other I currently own.
 
I started out circa 2005 or 2006 with the M&P Subcompact in .40 S&W (back when it was called the "Compact", or in this case, the M&P40c). I had one pistol before this, a Taurus 24/7 (which was/is a full-size pistol), but this M&P40c was my first concealed carry firearm (and my first quality firearm). I sold it in 2013 to go with a Glock 19. About two-dozen pistols later I'm thinking about getting an M&P9 M2.0 Subcompact, which I believe is a better designation than "compact" (at least with the flush magazine).

I have been a big fan of the G26 having had both the Gen4 and Gen5 versions, but after owning six Glocks I noticed something about them I'm not happy with. Even though I trained on the Glock grip angle to where I was proficient, I noticed that when I started owning a lot of different pistols from other manufacturers, I started missing more in my initial draw (shooting too high). This is a well known phenomenon due to the grip angle as we all know, but I had thought I'd overcome it. I have since sold all of my Glocks and started transitioning to pistols that are less prone to do doing this. My reasoning is that in the heat of having to draw my pistol to defend myself, I have no idea if I am going to be prone to sailing a round over someone's head if they're not right on top of me.

Anyway, after 15 years of owning pocket pistols, "single stacks" (most of which not truly being single), subcompacts, compacts, and full-size guns, about a month ago I started thinking that I need to try the Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Subcompact (again). If it works out, ironically I would be coming back to the pistol I started with. If the G26 grip angle was that of the M&P or classic SIG P series, I would have been fine sticking with it as I love the 4.17" height, but most G26 owners aside from myself put the extension to get twelve rounds anyway, but it makes the G26 a lot taller than the alleged 4.3" of the M&P9 M2.0 Subcompact, which brings me to my question for you:

Is the height of the Subcompact 4.3" as the 1.0 version was claimed?

I've noticed that Smith & Wesson sometimes fudges its numbers. For example, Smith claims a Shield M2.0 is 18.3 ounces, but this is misleading as that is the weight of the pistol without the magazine (empty or otherwise). When you add a couple of ounces for the magazine it is clearly a 20+ ounce pistol. I carry a Shield and prefer the extra weight as it makes it more shootable in my opinion than a Hellcat or P365 (so I am not complaining), but if they cut the magazine out of the weight specification, I was wondering if they also do the same thing when measuring the pistol's height.

Would you be willing to measure the top of the sight to the bottom of the magazine for both the flush and pinky extension mags to get a true heights of each configuration? I am also curious if the grip sleeves and 15 and/or 17 round magazines more closely match one of the palm swells in particular. I know they'll all fit, but I was wondering if any of them give the same profile as the Compact and Full-Size versions.

I'm only curious because I noticed that with my G26 anytime I used the extended magazines they printed more than the flush magazine; and because I actually shot it better without my pinky, the flush magazine configuration was my preference.

I think you chose wisely. I LOVE the M2.0 upgrades and I've missed my compact/subcompact M&P going on seven years now.
 
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Mine should be arriving at the FFL today, won't get to shoot it until this weekend. I have a 2.0 Compact manual safety for a couple of weeks and like it, had to remove some of the bite on the grips. I really hope that the subcompact doesn't pinch at the magazine (I get pinch from most of the G26 magazine options) which can get annoying on long sessions.

I purchased a M2.0 Compact which was biting my hands (it actually hurt), but after a week or two of fondling it, it completely went away. Hands adapt. It's just like developing a callus, but its not noticable.
 
I bought one right after thanksgiving and love it. I also have a 2.0 4" compact and a shield. The other two are great guns as well but have stayed in the safe since I got the subcompact. Since it can use the 12, 15 and 17 round mags it is just so versatile and for whatever reason I shoot the subcompact better than the compact. Probably hanging on to all three but I'm having to work to justify why I shouldn't trade in the compact for another fun gun!

I sold my 4" M&P M2.0 Compact because, after previously owning a 1.0 "compact" with the 3.5" barrel, I knew a 3.6" was all I really needed and I needed the money. In retrospect, however, it would have been nice to hold onto it because sometimes a longer barrel carries better for me appendix, but do I have two other compact pistols (P229 and PX4 Storm), so I really didn't need it and I prefer carrying DA/SA appendix anyway. That said, my preferred way of carrying is 2:30-3 o'clock OWB (a G26), and I think the 3.6" subcompact would do this nicely.
 
Sheepdogged: thought I would measure my 1.0 9c just for reference and post. Hopefully 2.0 9 subcompact owner will post their msmts.

Height with 10 rd flush mag= 4 1/2"
Height with 10 rd pinky ext mag= 5"
Length= 6 11/16"
Weight with 10 rd flush loaded mag=1lb13oz. Or 29oz.
Weight with 17rd w/Xgrip ext loaded= 2lb1oz. Or 33ozs.

These are the only mags i own so can not comment on 12-15rd mags.

As far as feel of 17rd with xgrip extension, it is flush with bottom of gun mag well, feels the same in hand as 10 rd mags, only more area for pinky finger to sit and get firm grip. I have the large grip sleeve on as that fits my large hands the best. I do think 12 15 or 17 rd mags would feel any different no matter what grip sleeve one chooses because that area is only in the palm area of the hand and tapers to nothing to fit gun at mag well. IMHO.
 
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Sheepdogged: thought I would measure my 1.0 9c just for reference and post. Hopefully 2.0 9 subcompact owner will post their msmts.

Height with 10 rd flush mag= 4 1/2"
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Hmmmm...you may be right, but if the M&P is 4.25" in height, that means it is only 0.08" taller than the G26. It also looks like the both have their stock sights in these pictures. Does it look like only a 0.08" difference?

Height with 10 rd pinky ext mag= 5"

That's exactly why I am looking to carry this pistol at the 2:30-3 o'clock position with the flush magazine. The 15 and 17 rounders would be mostly for times where I can't carry my other compacts that can't be reduced to 4.25 or 4.3 inches (whatever the actual measurement of the flush magazines.

Length= 6 11/16"
Weight with 10 rd flush loaded mag=1lb13oz. Or 39ozs.
Weight with 17rd w/Xgrip ext loaded= 2lb1oz. Or 33ozs.

These are the only mags i own so can not comment on 12-15rd mags.

As far as feel of 17rd with xgrip extension, it is flush with bottom of gun mag well, feels the same in hand as 10 rd mags, only more area for pinky finger to sit and get firm grip. I have the large grip sleeve on as that fits my large hands the best. I do think 12 15 or 17 rd mags would feel any different no matter what grip sleeve one chooses because that area is only in the palm area of the hand and tapers to nothing to fit gun at mag well. IMHO.

Thank you for taking the time to take those measurements and report back. It helps a lot. :)
 
Gonna head out to the range here in a bit and give the subcompact a good workout.

Excited to try it out. I love the concealable nature of the 12 round flush fit mag and the ability to load up the 15 round mag for a better purchase. Got about 600 rounds to put through it and a few to put through the shield 2.0 just to keep myself fresh on it also.

I'll post how it does later
 
Subcompact performed flawlessly. I added the trijicon hd sights but kept the trigger stock for the time being.

It never missed a beat and surprisingly wasn't very dirty at all when finished up. Much cleaner shooting than my glocks. Quick wipe down and it's become my edc when not carrying the shield.

Well done S&W
 

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