M&P's Auto Forward

[CB3]

What does the magazine button do? Why, it STOPS the magazine in the grip as its primary function. It's secondary function is to RELEASE the magazine. It's always called a mag release; never a mag stop.

What does a slide STOP do? Its first function is to lock the slide back, but not permanently. It must also by design be able to RELEASE the slide as it's second function. People argue that this dual function lever can only be called one thing.

Eh. Semantics. No matter your terminology--slide lever; slide lock; slide stop; slide release. All this nomenclature describes the function of the part. I know to which part you are referring. My panties aren't in a bunch.

But it if you call a mag release a mag stop, you are just flat wrong! )

 

[ThrowinRocks]

IT's called a mag catch. lol

Good thing he knows more about S&W's firearms than S&W does. When you call them to ask for a replacement Slide Stop that's what will be printed on the receipt that you get in the box but I'm not the EXPERT.

SMITH & WESSON - M&P SLIDE STOP ASSEMBLY, GEN 3

Just search this # with Google and see what shows up. 424270000

 

[Jim Watson]

As said, "auto-forward" behavior is quite popular in IDPA where you normally shoot to slide lock. I have seen many shooters so dependent on it that if the gun does not close when the magazine is hard rammed, they will bump the baseplate instead of going to the lever. That usually works, but if it does not, they are really losing time.

I think there are Glock shooters rounding the corner of the stop to promote auto forward, I don't know about MP users.

The SECOND worst thing about the phenomenon is a gun that auto forwards PART of the time and you never know what it is going to take to complete the reload.

The FIRST worst thing is that every once in a while, the slide will get ahead of the top round and close on an empty chamber. Most common in IDPA with 10 rounds in a 17 round magazine and lots of free space for the ammo to bounce up and down in.

S&W probably made the right move on the 2.0, especially in light of the Page 16 warning.

 

[SoCalDep]

IT's called a mag catch. lol

Good thing he knows more about S&W's firearms than S&W does. When you call them to ask for a replacement Slide Stop that's what will be printed on the receipt that you get in the box but I'm not the EXPERT.

SMITH & WESSON - M&P SLIDE STOP ASSEMBLY, GEN 3

Just search this # with Google and see what shows up. 424270000

I know enough to know that S&W designed the part with serrations on the top of it to assist in pushing it down. I know enough to know that Rob Leatham, Ernest Langdon, Larry Vickers, Mike Pannone, Travis Haley, Frank Proctor, and several other KNOWN experts use the part as a slide release - same as on other guns.

But hey - it says it on a parts list and in a manual. I guess if a car company decides to call the gas pedal on a car a squirrel button we are all obligated to oblige their whims and call it that.

The "it's a slide stop not a slide release" argument is so absolutely uneducated, ignorant, and dogmatic as to simply inform me who knows nothing about actually using firearms, or who is so stuck in their ways as to completely ignore reality.

 

[Smakmauz]

I guess if a car company decides to call the gas pedal on a car a squirrel button we are all obligated to oblige their whims and call it that

Squirrel button! That's f-ing hilarious!

But, come on guys... this is getting pretty ludicrous. Yes, most companies call it a slide stop, and that is it's primary function but a lot of people use them as a release and it's perfectly acceptable to do so. We're all on the same team! Team guns!

Slide stop people: stop trying to tell people that they shouldn't use it as a release!

Slide release people: stop trying to tell anyone that it's actually called a slide release... It's not. I don't know of any firearm manufacturer that calls it that.

Now go shoot some guns!

 

[KELSW]

On my Walther PPQ manual it is called a "slide stop" but also says to release slide push down on slide stop to move slide forward . Also says pull slide back from rear serrations . I use my slide stop on my PPQ to release the slide and chamber a round . PPQ has a large "slide stop" .

 

[mlk18]

This thread is hilarious. I have been to over a dozen combat handgunning schools and have had the slides auto-forward on everything from Glock to Sig to S&W. It happens less on guns that sit in safes most of their lives and happens a lot on guns that actually see training on a regular basis. Has never hindered me in any way shape or form during range time, force on force training or in the field. If the slide auto shuts, I get back to shooting. If it doesn't, I shut it and get back to shooting. I don't Google what the lever is called or check the manual to see what the designer wanted it to do. I get back in the fight and let other people worry about it.

 

[Jim Watson]

Yeah, it's not like slide stop vs slide release is IMPORTANT, like pointing out the difference between "clip" and "magazine." Now that is serious expertise.