Will these be a good carry load that won,t stress the forcing cone or frame. I don,t like the muzzle blast of the 125gr. Will the 158hp be good for ccw without over penatration. The recoil is less than the 125gr. load. The round is Remington express hp loads.
M19-3 2.5" 158hp factory load good for ccw?
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Any round is lethal with good shot placement. If you find the 125 grains to have more recoil, I assume they are +p load defense rounds? The higher grain weight bullet would have more recoil if loaded to the same velocity, so I would assume they are standard .38 sp velocity loading?
Any good defense round should suffice with good placement. Shoot what you are most accurate with.
Any good defense round should suffice with good placement. Shoot what you are most accurate with.
If you don't like 125gr, don't use them. Don't not use them solely because they'd be in a 19. Lots and lots of them will stress the forcing cone but since it's your CCW, you hopefully won't ever have to use it, except for practice.
I have a Pre 36 2 inch snub nose and my gunsmith told me it was designed for 158 grain SWC and thats what I should shoot in it. He told me I could carry 125 grain +p for defense but to practice with the 158 grain.
I don't know if it applies here but use this info if you want to.
I don't know if it applies here but use this info if you want to.
Texas Star
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I think the 140 grain loads are a good compromise in 2.5-inch and three-inch .357's, and the bullet will expand better than the 158's.
uncle norman
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I believe Speer posts their .357 135gr Short Barrel at a little less than 1,000fps. That is what I carry in my Ruger GP101.
LazarusLong
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Can't beat Speer GDSB. Although if given the choice I'd probably carry Buffalo Bore's .38 +P 158 grain SWCHP.
I ,m talking about Rem 357 mag 158gr. HP loads over the 125gr. hp in the M-19-3 for defence. For target I use 158swc P+. The 158 Rem bullet is old school design with big scollop's cut in jacket and softer lead core hp. I,m sure its fine for defence for 4-legged or two legged. And as you all state bullet placement is paramount and gueen in combat. And lets hope we never have to test it. After all this load will beat all lesser pocket guns 9mm ,38spec,380,25,32 and be with the most potent cals like the 44mag,45acp,40 sw on stopping power. The 357 mag is a great cal. and the K-frame magnum a good carry gun.
uncle norman
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speer claims their bonded bullets won't have core/jacket separation. I don't want my round failing if it hits bone, belt buckels, lucky rabbits feet, etc.
I shoot the 150 gr HPs and 158 gr HPs in my Mdl 19s. They are accurate and have enough velocity to perform well at self defense ranges.
I've seen what these bullets can do to 180-200 pound animals. They are fine for CCW.
BTW, the Mdl 19-3 or older are my favorite S&Ws.
The light stuff ire not good in these guns due to the long bullet jump and super hot gas that gets around the short bullets before they reach the cylinder forcing cone.
I've seen what these bullets can do to 180-200 pound animals. They are fine for CCW.
BTW, the Mdl 19-3 or older are my favorite S&Ws.
The light stuff ire not good in these guns due to the long bullet jump and super hot gas that gets around the short bullets before they reach the cylinder forcing cone.
Sportsterguy
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I carry 158 gr. Speer Gold Dots in all of my .357's. Don't know their ballistics but they'll blow a water melon to smithereens and take a deer with no problem.
Lots of choices, but what works for you is what matters
When I got my first M19, I decided to try a variety of ammo and see what shot most accurately. That was the Speer GDHP, but with DPX a close second. If I were to carry that gun, I'd use the Speer stuff.
My second M19 liked the Federal Classic 158 best, and I'm confident that would be an efficient choice. My M65 really likes the Speer GDHP, and my pre-27 likes the Hornady 140 XPT and Federal Classic. So I keep a few boxes of Speer and Fed Classic.
In the end, what you shoot for practice is probably most important, as that's what you'll use most. For carry, I'd pick the ammo that shoots best; given the odds of actually using it and the power of the .357, having the edge of accuracy is probably more important than the particular load. Confidence in accuracy is always good.
When I got my first M19, I decided to try a variety of ammo and see what shot most accurately. That was the Speer GDHP, but with DPX a close second. If I were to carry that gun, I'd use the Speer stuff.
My second M19 liked the Federal Classic 158 best, and I'm confident that would be an efficient choice. My M65 really likes the Speer GDHP, and my pre-27 likes the Hornady 140 XPT and Federal Classic. So I keep a few boxes of Speer and Fed Classic.
In the end, what you shoot for practice is probably most important, as that's what you'll use most. For carry, I'd pick the ammo that shoots best; given the odds of actually using it and the power of the .357, having the edge of accuracy is probably more important than the particular load. Confidence in accuracy is always good.
michael thornton
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my 357s have 158 jsp in them all, maxed out hand loads,they will get the job done im sure.
