M2.0 & apex

[Corey08cummins]

Alright guys/gals I'm sure this has beaten to death but I can't find what I'm looking for. I have a 2.0 compact and hate the trigger shoe I'm wanting to know if the apex polymer shoe 100-025 will work on the 2.0s I don't want a whole trigger kit just the shoe
Thanks in advance
Corey

 

[Ranger17]

Have you tried contacting Apex directly since the 2.0C is a fairly new model?

 

[Corey08cummins]

I did with no reply

 

[presspics]

It will fit. All you had to do was look at their website. Although I don't know why anyone would spend that kind of money on a plastic trigger shoe.

M&P M2.0

 

[Corey08cummins]

The 100-025 isn't labeled to fit under the 2.0 only the older m&ps on the apex site

 

[presspics]

It's the same trigger that is included in the 2.0 trigger kit. It will work.

 

[Samsn1]

it Fits however I’ve hard of people having issues with reset or dead triggers. Apparently due to tolerance stacking on some guns the angle of the interaction between the trigger bar and the new trigger actuator can be offset but the shoe and cause problems if the apex .45 sear isn’t used which is why it’s only available as a kit at this time. Take it with a grain of salt as I can’t remember where I read this info.

 

[Trailryder50]

It will fit. All you had to do was look at their website. Although I don't know why anyone would spend that kind of money on a plastic trigger shoe.

M&P M2.0

I agree, it will work.

I bought the plastic trigger because I prefer the more rounded edges/sides vs. the more squared edges/sides of the aluminum trigger.

 

[Corey08cummins]

After a few weeks apex replied and said the 100-025 Will only work as a full kit 100-026
Thanks you all for the replies

 

[Trailryder50]

After a few weeks apex replied and said the 100-025 Will only work as a full kit 100-026
Thanks you all for the replies

But on their website it says the 100-026 duty kit does not function in the 2.0.

And under the 100-025 kit it says "Works as a stand-alone with the factory sear and other components."

So sounds to me like someone at Apex has their wires crossed.

 

[Corey08cummins]

But on their website it says the 100-026 duty kit does not function in the 2.0.

And under the 100-025 kit it says "Works as a stand-alone with the factory sear and other components."

So sounds to me like someone at Apex has their wires crossed.

I'm sorry typo on my behalf 100-126

 

[Asltrfl]

Apex wants you to buy the whole kit, there were issues with the polymer and Aluminum trigger not working properly due to the sear/trigger geometry. Do a search here, there is a thread with a member who went through this and he had to buy the "2-dot sear" and it worked perfect. Another member was able to use just the poly trigger, but he had to "shave/deburr" part of the poly trigger to make it work properly.

Many of us have bought the aluminum #100-064 trigger and it is a perfect drop-in IF you also buy the "2-dot" sear to go with it (#100-063). Will be the same with the equivilant Poly trigger only (#100-025). Just get the apex 2-dot sear, it is worth the $38 dollars for a custom machined, hardened part (not MIM), pay once, cry once.

You are not going to save a bunch of money by buying just the trigger and sear separately. But Brownells sells the "2-dot" sear for $38 or so, and the poly trigger can be had on ebay or elsewhere for around $35-$40. (I would just bite the bullet and get the AU trigger for $70)

I don't know how much the kit goes for, but it is not needed in my opinion. The trigger and sear only, brought my pull weight down to 4lbs. but still has kind-of a long take-up, which I don't mind. This is with the "stock" sear spring. The trigger comes with a heavier sear spring which will up the trigger pull weight a bit, but I did not use it.

For reference the #100-126 is the poly KIT. The #100-179 is the Aluminum KIT. The #100-064 is the Aluminum trigger only. The #100-025 is the poly trigger only. The #100-063 is the 2-dot sear. These are all the parts that will work with the 2.0 compacts. You can save $20 bucks or so by just buying the trigger and sear if you shop around. I used the AU trigger and the 2-dot sear and nothing else...works PERFECT, looks awesome, and no failures with HST's, Golden Sabers, Hydro-shocks, Ranger's, and ball.

 

[Shield9mm]

I had the polymer trigger alone on my 9c and it worked great.

 

[NewToGuns17]

I don't have the c model but I bought the kit for my 2.0 with the aluminum trigger shoe and I love it.

 

[Asltrfl]

There are other posts of the poly and AU trigger working great without any other parts mods. I just wanted to cover what I know from my own experiences and research. You can try the poly or AU trigger on it's own first and see if it works for you, but I know that Apex recommends their kit for best results. And last I checked, they only sell the 2.0 upgrades as a kit. We all learn from other's experience here.

 

[zephyr]

Just FYI, you can get the whole 100-179 from grabagun for $116. That is the cheapest I have seen. I put it in my 2.0 compact and it is outstanding.

 

[gc70]

I have a 2.0 compact and hate the trigger shoe I'm wanting to know if the apex polymer shoe 100-025 will work on the 2.0s

I don't have the c model but I bought the kit for my 2.0 with the aluminum trigger shoe and I love it.

Apex sells triggers, not trigger shoes.

Yeah, I'm "that guy" who reacts to mixing up "trigger" and "trigger shoe" like other people react to mixing up "magazine" and "clip."
.

 

[NewToGuns17]

Apex sells triggers, not trigger shoes.

Yeah, I'm "that guy" who reacts to mixing up "trigger" and "trigger shoe" like other people react to mixing up "magazine" and "clip."
.

My bad, I always called it a trigger until someone "corrected" me. I took it for face value. I'll go back to my original lingo.

 

[Smakmauz]

It IS a trigger shoe. that's a perfectly accepted industry term. A lot of places will sell a "trigger" that will include the trigger bar and/or other parts or they will sell just the "trigger shoe".

As for the polymer AEK trigger shoe... it does work with the 2.0. I have one installed on mine right now. as stated, there may be some tolerance issues on some guns that can cause this "dead trigger" thing that some have talked about. it happens when the built in over travel stop on the trigger shoe contacts the frame before the sear drops. the apex sear deactivates sooner than the stock sear so its not an issue. but if you want to use the stock sear with just the AEK you might have to just file down the over travel stop area on the back of the trigger shoe. Its just like the process that they describe for their SD replacement triggers. Just file the area until the striker drops and then go a little bit more to account for any expansion/contraction and you're good to go. you not have to do it at all. I filed mine down a little bit just because it didn't feel quite right. mine functions great... I like it a lot better than the hinged shoe... I can shoot a bit faster with the apex.

 

[gc70]

It IS a trigger shoe. that's a perfectly accepted industry term. A lot of places will sell a "trigger" that will include the trigger bar and/or other parts or they will sell just the "trigger shoe".

Highly respected sources like Wiley Clapp and the American Rifleman (NRA) would disagree - Terminology: Trigger Shoe.

 

[Smakmauz]

Highly respected sources like Wiley Clapp and the American Rifleman (NRA) would disagree - Terminology: Trigger Shoe.

I don't really care enough to read the link. All I care about is that the fact that people who make these parts will use the term trigger shoe so it's perfectly appropriate. You can call it whatever you want, just don't try to tell someone it's right or wrong based on opinion.

 

[NewToGuns17]

I'm all about learning and after a bit of looking, I agree a trigger shoe and trigger are two different things. Just as a seat and a seat cover are two different things...

 

[Smakmauz]

Cool beans. Either term is used pretty frequently. Neither one is wrong in this case. It just makes it a little easier when talking about the parts when all the parts have a specific term. The term "trigger" is a bit too generic for me when discussing on forums because often times people refer to other parts of the trigger system as the the "trigger". I just chimed in on it because I don't like it when people try to assert their opinion as fact. That doesn't do anyone any good for the sake of learning.

 

[AZ115]

No problems for me

I installed the "Apex Tactical Action Enhancement Trigger Kit S&W M&P Polymer Black" Apex part#100-025 and have not had any issues. I perfer the Apex polymer trigger over the stock M&P trigger.

I have several M&P's with Apex parts and now have a M2.0 FDE with a Apex polymer trigger. I have had 0 malfuctions and 0 problems with the apex polymer trigger.

The original trigger that I pulled off the M2.0 is exactly the same as all other 1.0 original triggers that I have swapped out.

I have about 800 rounds through my 40S&W FDE M2.0. Nothing but a big happy smile when I'm shooting it!

 

[Asltrfl]

A lot of us older 1911 guy's have carried over the nomenclature. The trigger "shoe" is the actual part you put your finger on (in a 1911), and the "trigger bow" is the part attached to the "shoe" that pushes on the sear (in a 1911). Nice thing is, we all know what you mean either way, and we don't put you down for it!