gold40
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Is it still legal for a non-resident to sell a 10 or 15 round magazine to a New York resident and ship it via USPS?
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Magazine Sale to N.Y Resident?
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15 NO
10 until April 15, 2013
actually, the law is quite murky. the state police have set up a link to their interpretation, let me post it.
Look under the section pertaining to magazines
http://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms-faq
"Since the federal assault weapons ban in 1994, it has been illegal in New York State to buy, for any gun, a detachable magazine, manufactured after the law took effect, that can contain more than ten rounds. This law does not change that. Starting April 15, 2013, only magazines that contain 7 rounds or less will be sold in New York, including permanently modified magazines."
10 until April 15, 2013
actually, the law is quite murky. the state police have set up a link to their interpretation, let me post it.
Look under the section pertaining to magazines
http://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms-faq
"Since the federal assault weapons ban in 1994, it has been illegal in New York State to buy, for any gun, a detachable magazine, manufactured after the law took effect, that can contain more than ten rounds. This law does not change that. Starting April 15, 2013, only magazines that contain 7 rounds or less will be sold in New York, including permanently modified magazines."
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Comrad
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They have men posted at the border counting magazine capacity in incoming mail.
Actually, how the ho ho heck are they going to regulate this. Magazines are not serial numbered and not tied to any gun. No documents are required to buy or sell them, even ebay allows the sale of them.
A magazine without a gun can't be illegal, can it? It's a piece of steel with a spring.
Actually, how the ho ho heck are they going to regulate this. Magazines are not serial numbered and not tied to any gun. No documents are required to buy or sell them, even ebay allows the sale of them.
A magazine without a gun can't be illegal, can it? It's a piece of steel with a spring.
I believe a 15 round magazine made prior to the AWB (preban) is legal until the new law goes into effect, although you would then have to get rid of it by April 15th, so I don't see the point.....it says "manufactured after the law took effect"......
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shotguntom
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I live in the cesspool known as the peoples republic of NY Absolutely no magazines are to be possessed that hold over 10 rounds, regardless when they were manufactured. we will be allowed to possess 10 round magazines acquired prior to April 15th 2013, but may only load 7 rounds in them. After 4-15-13 we will only be allowed to purchase 7 rounds or less mags.
IT SUCKS TO BE IN THIS STATE.
Tom
IT SUCKS TO BE IN THIS STATE.
Tom
pre 1994 mags were ok until the passage of the new law, now there's no grandfathering, they're to be sold.
Then the answer to the question the op asked is yes, for now, that's the point I was making. You can ship preban mags to NY for now, but what's the point? You would have to get rid of them by April 15th....the law was passed, but the effective date is April 15th, correct?
beemerphile
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If the question is whether an out-of-stater can ship them in, how is NY law going to affect someone who doesn't live there? Can the long arm of the law reach out of state? Seems to me their only beef could be with the recipient.
WTN1271
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Smith & Wesson (springfield, ma) appears to be shipping 10 round mags to NY'ers. Mine arrived today. Thanks SW. Order yours while you still can.
I would think, that if you live outside of New York, you could ship a magazine of any size legal in your state to a New York resident, and you would not have violated any laws. However, it may be illegal for that person in New York to receive the magazines. HE is the one in trouble, NOT YOU.
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My understanding is that it has to be a functioning complete magazine. Some sites (44mag, glockstore) sell repair kits to ban states that include everything to assemble a new mag.
I think the OP is fine as long as he disassembles the mag when he sends it. What the buyer does with his parts is up to them.
I am an NY resident and this is just my opinion.
I think you have until Jan 15, 2014 to sell to a dealer or out of state resident, OR convert the mags to 7 shot. The conversion must be permanent and non reversible.
Who's going to check all this, no one knows, the majority of LE say they have neither the time nor resources to enforce any of this. Beware the one guy who does.
Chuck Jones
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Gentlemen, the law is not meant to be initially enforceable or practical. It's meant to turn the law abiding and their property into law breakers and contraband.
The goal is to delegitimize as many guns and gun owners as possible, and set the stage for confiscation, amnesty and turn-ins or voluntary sales outside the state.
They want them gone, not owned, not sold within the state, not inherited, but gone.
In fact the initial impracticality is the perfect excuse for legislating even stricter laws.
How on God's earth did your Republican State Senators sell you out?
/c
The goal is to delegitimize as many guns and gun owners as possible, and set the stage for confiscation, amnesty and turn-ins or voluntary sales outside the state.
They want them gone, not owned, not sold within the state, not inherited, but gone.
In fact the initial impracticality is the perfect excuse for legislating even stricter laws.
How on God's earth did your Republican State Senators sell you out?
/c
Comrad
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I live in NJ 10 minutes from the state line and there are 4 other states bordering NY. What miracle does Albany think will keep the crazies from loading up in a neighboring state and making the 10 minute drive over the line.
In Ohio we have a little known state law banning more than 32 rounds of ammo loaded in any firearm w/ detachable magazine EXCEPT 22 rimfire......it is completely legal to own and possess ANY capacity magazine, but if you load more than 32 rounds in a firearm, chambered round included, you now have a MACHINEGUN! Because of this ridiculous law, many online and mail order vendors will not ship mags 32 round or larger to Ohio, even though they are completely legal by themselves.......aint politics grand?
NY residents will soon be treated like CA residents where nobody will want to do any gun related business with them - and no doubt that is one of the reasons for this crazy law.
shotguntom
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One of the reasons, yes, but the ultimate goal in NYS is no firearms in civilian hands. Call me crazy, but I truly believe this with all my heart. Total control of the subjects.
Fortunately my wife is fine with eventually moving elsewhere. The time line for moving needs to be negotiated. LOL
TJ
