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Faulkner

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One of the detriments of rural living, what some folks call living out in the country, is mailbox bashing. I hear tell that in the days of yore an occasional mailbox would get bashed every now and then, but it seems to be the life span of the typical metal mailbox on a post is short indeed.

As a result, when I first moved onto the Faulkner Homestead 20 years ago I had a brick mailbox built from bricks left over from the house. My wife said she wanted one of those big ones with plant boxes on either side so she should plant various flowers in it. I also told the bricklayer that I didn't want a wimpy mailbox, I wanted one that someone would have to work at to damage and if they tried to run over it there would be car parts left behind. The brick layer said he understood and he'd fix us up. Soon after it was completed and my wife had planted flowers in it the rural mail carrier left us a nice note saying we had the nicest and prettiest mailbox on her entire route.

That mailbox has served us well for 20 years until not long ago. One morning about 5:00 am the sheriff's department dispatcher called me and woke me up.

"Faulkner, sorry to wake you, but we just got a report of a single car accident with injury and it sounds like it's on the road near your place. I've got a deputy on the way but he's 15 to 20 minutes out, do you mind checking it out?"

"No problem," I said, "I'll go take a look. Do you have an ambulance on the way?"

"10-4."

After getting dressed I walked down my drive to the road could immediately see that the incident was indeed just across the road right in front of my place. It was obvious that my mailbox took a direct hit and the offending vehicle didn't fare well. I didn't see anyone around but as I knelt down and looked into the car I could see blood on the steering wheel and dash. I could then see tracks in the wet grass where someone had crawled out the back door and had walked to my neighbor's house. As I followed the tracks in that direction my neighbor came out and greeted me from the front porch and said the driver of the car, a woman about 30 years old, was inside with blood gushing out of what appeared to be a broken nose and his wife was attending to her. He said she indicated she had been alone in the car.

I walked back to the road and waited on the ambulance and deputy to arrive, pointing the ambulance to where their patient was. When the deputy arrived he smiled and said, "hey Faulkner, was that your mailbox?"

"Unfortunately," I said.

Turns out that the woman was stone cold sober and had just been driving too fast on her way to work. The deputy found her cell phone in her purse in the car so that apparently wasn't a contributing factor either. What was even better, she had insurance and after the insurance adjuster showed up later that day he said to send them the bill to replace the mailbox and they'd pay for it.

I hope my new mailbox holds up as well as the old one did.


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Faulkner...first glad the woman appeared to be ok. We had a similar problem..our road had a slight curve in it but when you flew down the road that curve changed and pushed you to the outside of the curve. Unfortunately our mailbox was on the outside of that curve. My Dad got pretty good at replacing mailboxes. He always wanted to use a railroad rail as a post. His reasoning was..if they hit that we will know in the morning who they are. Our neighbor talked him out of that idea.

So what does your new mailbox look like?
 
That young speedster is lucky to be alive.

That said,

To anyone that thinks the mail box needs reenforcement. I think it was plenty sturdy to resist all but the most determined vandal. Any thing more is trying to get someone killed.

Really boys? Would you get off if the car was ripped in half and she died? Really?

Sick!!!
 
So what does your new mailbox look like?

The new mailbox is similar to the old one except without the planters on either side. After 20 years I got tired of carrying a pale of water down my long driveway to water whatever flowers my wife had planted in there. I told her if she wanted flowers down there I'd get her some decorative ceramic pots or something to place on either side.

The key to a brick mailbox is to make sure the builder uses a quality mailbox to begin with. Don't let them stick a flimsy $19.99 Walmart box in there, the door will wear out in a year or so. Get a quality one with a magnetic latch that'll last.

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He always wanted to use a railroad rail as a post. His reasoning was..if they hit that we will know in the morning who they are.

Most towns, cities, counties, etc. have ordinances against this. While it's pretty maddening to have a mailbox bashed, the result in reinforcing it might just put you in jail.
 
Most towns, cities, counties, etc. have ordinances against this. While it's pretty maddening to have a mailbox bashed, the result in reinforcing it might just put you in jail.

When I lived in the suburb of Albany our house was on a curve. Even though the box was extra far off the road the plow jockeys seemed to always hit it doing snow plowing. Box was off so far I thought for sure the USPS would object as they have rules for everything but our long time mail carrier was ok. They had those right hand drive trucks and he had to veer a couple more feet off the road to get it, not really a big deal. Our community to get them to admit guilt or cough up money to fix their damage was worse than pulling teeth!:mad:

What I finely done after repairing/replacing the box and its support structure a few time was I put a piece of pipe in the ground much father back and installed a smaller piece in it with a 90 degree elbow and another piece of pipe running out to the road. If it was hit it just pivoted a bit and did not break. Did that about 25 years ago and I went by the old house a few weeks ago and my old mailbox was still doing duty.:D

As a welder I thought of putting in a piece of 6-8’’ pipe filled with concrete put deep in the ground with a gusseted piece of 4’’ pipe running to the road to mount the box on, but a good buddy at the local cop shop told me of the potential legal problems if anyone got hurt by that extra strong structure.
 
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Every May when the college kids are getting ready to go home, they go around bashing mail box's, they never came down our street because it was a dead end. We have a guy who lives on a bad curve and his mail box was always getting hit, so he got tired of it and went down to Home Depot and bought one of those cardboard tubes you use for footings for decks, he dug a hole a few feet deep and had it sticking out of the ground about 4 feet, put in some re-bar and filled it up with cement and put his mailbox on top, it was up quite a while maybe a year before it got hit, the town made him take it down and put a post back in.:(
 
That young speedster is lucky to be alive.

That said,

To anyone that thinks the mail box needs reenforcement. I think it was plenty sturdy to resist all but the most determined vandal. Any thing more is trying to get someone killed.

Really boys? Would you get off if the car was ripped in half and she died? Really?

Sick!!!
She could have not run over his mailbox. How hard is that?
 
She could have not run over his mailbox. How hard is that?

That was what I was thinking. Keep the car on the road and you don't have to worry about all those obstacles off the road.

Down the road a bit was a telephone pole, could be my mailbox saved her from hitting it with a worse outcome.
 
She could have not run over his mailbox. How hard is that?

Reread my post. "young speedster" Yes she was not paying attention or maybe going to fast. But it's not like she wanted to hit the box and total her car. Or even destroy his mailbox. Just a stupid mistake.

For this she should die? It's just a mailbox that can be replaced. A life can't.

"lucky to be alive". That structure was pretty stout as it was. "sturdy enough to resist all but the most determined vandal" To which it did its job for many years.

I just hope she learned her lesson and am thankful no one had to scrape her up off of the road. Maybe some here would like that. I know no matter how pissed I was at the moment I would never wish that on someone for something as stupid as a mailbox.
 
Finally a post about brick. Yeah, I've built very many mailboxes out of brick. I LIKE them. Ok, carry on.
 
Reread my post. "young speedster" Yes she was not paying attention or maybe going to fast. But it's not like she wanted to hit the box and total her car. Or even destroy his mailbox. Just a stupid mistake.

For this she should die? It's just a mailbox that can be replaced. A life can't.

"lucky to be alive". That structure was pretty stout as it was. "sturdy enough to resist all but the most determined vandal" To which it did its job for many years.

I just hope she learned her lesson and am thankful no one had to scrape her up off of the road. Maybe some here would like that. I know no matter how pissed I was at the moment I would never wish that on someone for something as stupid as a mailbox.
You're reading a whole lot into my post. I wish no one any harm, but try as we might, we can't idiot proof the entire country. At some point the "young speedster" should be accountable for her actions.
 
Just re-pored the base for my daughter's mailbox Wed. Had built her a brick one several years ago after the old one had been abused by too many hooligans to repair. It lasted several years until a kid took it out before totaling his car on the tree behind it. Put up a new one on a post and the hooligans started all over. Will take a couple of days to build the new one and I hope there isn't a bulls-eye on this one.
BTW Faulkner, where is your flag on the new one? The flag is a pain in the behind to make work correctly on brick, but it can be done. Or is this just your "INBOX"
Larry
 
I had a mailbox that was destroyed every few years by the snowplow throwing ice and slush,solved it by relocating it several feet further from the road.One neighbor enclosed his inside a protective cage made from steel mesh.
 
You're reading a whole lot into my post. I wish no one any harm, but try as we might, we can't idiot proof the entire country. At some point the "young speedster" should be accountable for her actions.

Agreed, You can't fix stupid.

Lets see, Busted face, Totaled car and an insurance claim. I'd say she's being held accountable in spades.

It wasn't really your response that got me going, Some suggested solutions were down right evil. Yours wasn't and for that I should have kept you out of it.

It was the fact that you quoted me. I thought maybe you were also of the mind that the box should have been tank proof.

I apologize.

One more thing to those that think the box should withstand a strike like that, What if she had her small child in the car?

How would you feel then knowing you created something designed to split a car in two?
 
USPS Mailbox Guidelines

"Installing the Post

The best mailbox supports are stable but bend or fall away if a car hits them. The Federal Highway Administration recommends:

A 4" x 4" wooden support or a 2"-diameter standard steel or aluminum pipe.

Avoid unyielding and potentially dangerous supports, like heavy metal pipes, concrete posts, and farm equipment (e.g., milk cans filled with concrete).

Bury your post no more than 24" deep.

https://www.usps.com/manage/mailboxes.htm
 
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Back in the day, when I was young and stupid, say around 1959, our favorite game, while drunk, was riding in the back of one of my buddies PU.

We had a rope that we used for roping, tied off of the back bumper trailer ball.

We would drive down the road at about 25mph and rope the mailbox, let go of the rope and haul butt. Out would come the mailbox. Great fun.

One fellers place was a challenge. We would come around the corner and try to rope the mailbox. Yeehaw!

One time we got it, let go of the rope and took off.

The truck jerked and the bumper tore off. We were scared and didn't turn around, just left it laying there. License plate and all. Went home.

Next morning my buddies dad answered the front door and I suspect you can guess who was standing there. Deputy Sheriff

Turns out that the guy was tired of his mailbox being up rooted, dug a pit, poured concrete over a tire rim, all except about 6 inches and rest was dirt.

There were 4 of us and 30 days later after we got off being grounded, needless to say, we never roped mailboxes again.


True story
 
BTW Faulkner, where is your flag on the new one? The flag is a pain in the behind to make work correctly on brick, but it can be done. Or is this just your "INBOX"
Larry

I didn't put a flag on it, nor did I have one on the old one. The small town post office where we live is on our way into town and there is a public mailbox on the sidewalk outside at work and I usually drop off our mail at either one of those. The rural mail carrier pretty much stops every day to deliver my allotment of junk mail so if I'm not going to town I put it in the box anyway and it always gets picked up.
 
Way back in the day when real fireworks (I'm talking Cherry Bombs) were available, some of the mean boys (not me) would light two of them and throw them in the box, close the door, and scat. Shredded mail recepticle.
 
Way back in the day when real fireworks (I'm talking Cherry Bombs) were available, some of the mean boys (not me) would light two of them and throw them in the box, close the door, and scat. Shredded mail recepticle.

that has been a Bad Boy form of recreation here in rural Iowa for years, sometimes 20-30 a night. M80s worked fine too.
 
One of the detriments of rural living, what some folks call living out in the country, is mailbox bashing. I hear tell that in the days of yore an occasional mailbox would get bashed every now and then, but it seems to be the life span of the typical metal mailbox on a post is short indeed.

As a result, when I first moved onto the Faulkner Homestead 20 years ago I had a brick mailbox built from bricks left over from the house. My wife said she wanted one of those big ones with plant boxes on either side so she should plant various flowers in it. I also told the bricklayer that I didn't want a wimpy mailbox, I wanted one that someone would have to work at to damage and if they tried to run over it there would be car parts left behind. The brick layer said he understood and he'd fix us up. Soon after it was completed and my wife had planted flowers in it the rural mail carrier left us a nice note saying we had the nicest and prettiest mailbox on her entire route.

That mailbox has served us well for 20 years until not long ago. One morning about 5:00 am the sheriff's department dispatcher called me and woke me up.

"Faulkner, sorry to wake you, but we just got a report of a single car accident with injury and it sounds like it's on the road near your place. I've got a deputy on the way but he's 15 to 20 minutes out, do you mind checking it out?"

"No problem," I said, "I'll go take a look. Do you have an ambulance on the way?"

"10-4."

After getting dressed I walked down my drive to the road could immediately see that the incident was indeed just across the road right in front of my place. It was obvious that my mailbox took a direct hit and the offending vehicle didn't fare well. I didn't see anyone around but as I knelt down and looked into the car I could see blood on the steering wheel and dash. I could then see tracks in the wet grass where someone had crawled out the back door and had walked to my neighbor's house. As I followed the tracks in that direction my neighbor came out and greeted me from the front porch and said the driver of the car, a woman about 30 years old, was inside with blood gushing out of what appeared to be a broken nose and his wife was attending to her. He said she indicated she had been alone in the car.

I walked back to the road and waited on the ambulance and deputy to arrive, pointing the ambulance to where their patient was. When the deputy arrived he smiled and said, "hey Faulkner, was that your mailbox?"

"Unfortunately," I said.

Turns out that the woman was stone cold sober and had just been driving too fast on her way to work. The deputy found her cell phone in her purse in the car so that apparently wasn't a contributing factor either. What was even better, she had insurance and after the insurance adjuster showed up later that day he said to send them the bill to replace the mailbox and they'd pay for it.

I hope my new mailbox holds up as well as the old one did.


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As a LEO I'm surprised you don't know you could spend a long time in prison if someone was injured or killed by your brick inclosed mail box!
For at least fourty years Federal law has mandated breakaway or bendable post for anything within a road right away, or protected by a gardrail.
 
Brick mailbox towers are popular around here, but never build one where the people across the street are likely to run into it when backing out of their driveway. Probably not by the neighbors but visitors or workmen. My next door neighbor's is like that. I think it's bit the dust 3 times.
 
Way back in the day when real fireworks (I'm talking Cherry Bombs) were available, some of the mean boys (not me) would light two of them and throw them in the box, close the door, and scat. Shredded mail recepticle.

You had to use TWO? :D Man,those things were powerful! If you had them today,you could be arrested for possession of an explosive device. We had a kid who dropped one in the toilet in high school and flushed it. THOUSANDS in damages in 1966 dollars. My English class shared the wall between and just below and you would have thought we were having an earthquake!
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I once had a fancy mailbox made out of a cedar 6 x 6 that I had turned, with decorative turned supports. I got a real nice high end extra large mailbox with my address hand painted on it.

I was real proud of it; Until: My mailman delivered the 300 lbs of bullets that I had ordered, and stuffed all six boxes of bullets into my mailbox!!!!!! I came home to my mailbox, and post on the ground with boxes strewn all over.

I didn't need any vandals . . . I had an extra smart mailman.
 
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