Make sure your smoke alarm is working!

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An old friend of mine was killed in a house fire last week. It looks like the fire started in the living room where his computers were. There is no official cause of fire but speculation is maybe a battery charger. He lived alone and we are speculating that he did not have a working smoke alarm. Neighbors tried to rescue him but it was too late. I believe that a working smoke alarm would have saved his life. I went out and bought 4 more smoke alarms for our house today. Like I say this is just all speculation as there has not been an official cause yet. They are trying to locate his next of kin. This is a real tragedy. So anyway make sure your smoke alarms are working.
 
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I'm sitting in a hotel right now....

Kitchen fire, alarms went off and automatically called the FD. My son called them too and got a little overexcited. Somehow a burner got turned on with a pan of grease on it. My wife and son hit it with the fire extinguisher but it was too hot. They went to find something else to do and I grabbed a big bedspread and wadded it into a ball and just put it on top of the pan like a cork but it STILL kept flaring up so we had to bail out. Fortunately, it was contained to the kitchen, which is literally, toast. Our insurance is taking good care of us. But all this leads to....

KEEP YOUR FIRE ALARMS WORKING AND BE READY FOR A FIRE.
 
Best alarms include CO detectors and are wired in to 110 system. If you have battery powered, pick a day you remember well i.e. your birthday, new years etc and change out all batteries regardless of their condition.
 
In my home we have 9 hard wired (part of central alarm system) units and as a back up I also have 7 battery operated units in case of long term power outages. Also installed are 3 - Carbon Monoxide detectors, 3 - temperatures sensor detectors and water detectors that sound off as soon as there is 1/16" water in basement.

I am also intending on installing a special valve that will automatically turn off the main water supply if the water detector is set off by water. That will protect my home from a flood if a pipe or water heater every bursts.

All sensors and alarms go directly to Central Station in the event that I am not at home and designated people can then address the issue.
 
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Children can and do sleep through smoke alarms going off. Keep this in mind when setting up your home evac plan.

I, also, have both hard wired and stand alone detectors, including CO detectors.

These things are inexpensive, and do save lives. If you have one that gives trouble, toss it and get a new one, again, they are inexpensive.


Extra credit question: What do you do when a CO detector goes off?
 
Extra credit question: What do you do when a CO detector goes off?

That's a tough one take deep breath's. :)
 
We have hard wired ones tied into monitored alarm system and also stand alone ones.
When I first bought my house we didn't have the alarm service in our name yet but still under old owners until they came out in the following week. House was empty so I decided to set a couple flea bombs off as prior owner had cats and couldn't hurt. I set them off and as I was leaving the alarm went off as I learned later the mist blocked the optical eye on smoke detector as smoke would. I ran out to my truck and grabbed my cell phone to call alarm company but battery was dead. I went back into house choking and gagging from fumes and called them only to learn since I didn't have a password they would recall the fire department they had called. I called 911 and told them the situation and they canceled the trucks for me. Might have paid a fine for a bogus call had they got to the house.
I learned after that to cover the smoke detector or take it off the wall before you set off any flea bombs.
 
We have hard wired ones tied into monitored alarm system and also stand alone ones.
When I first bought my house we didn't have the alarm service in our name yet but still under old owners until they came out in the following week. House was empty so I decided to set a couple flea bombs off as prior owner had cats and couldn't hurt. I set them off and as I was leaving the alarm went off as I learned later the mist blocked the optical eye on smoke detector as smoke would. I ran out to my truck and grabbed my cell phone to call alarm company but battery was dead. I went back into house choking and gagging from fumes and called them only to learn since I didn't have a password they would recall the fire department they had called. I called 911 and told them the situation and they canceled the trucks for me. Might have paid a fine for a bogus call had they got to the house.
I learned after that to cover the smoke detector or take it off the wall before you set off any flea bombs.

So, ya still got fleas?? :D
 
Two questions on smoke alarms...

1. Do they go off briefly when the battery is fading?

2. Do they "talk" to each other?

One evening we heard the piercing pitch of our smoke alarm for about 10 seconds, for no apparent smoky reason. After it stopped, another one began the chirping sound that I associate with a low battery. We disconnected it from the wall/ceiling, then seconds later, another started chirping, and we ended up disconnecting all 6 of them because they all decided to chirp. Is it possible all batteries faded at the same time or can they sense when one is out, so they all "chime" in?
 
The units that were/are installed in new construction are wired so they talk to each other.When the back up battery in one gets weak,they all chirp.
 
most battery alarms.......

Changing on a specific date is a good idea, but the battery alarms that I have had start to 'chirp' when the battery needs changing. There not a lot to dislike about smoke alarms. A child can maintain one or as many as you want.
 
We have three and they are hard wired and also have battery's, when they start to chirp, it's usually at 2 am.:mad:
 
Of course the one that starts chirping is mounted 12 feet high. Stumble down to the shop at 3am and back with the ladder. Then the dang face plate won't twist off. Back down the ladder to grab the Win 12ga...
 
Lowes and other places sell wireless linked smoke detectors by Kidde. . I believe there are wireless linked dual sensor units as well. If the basement unit or any other activates, the one next to my bed sounds. I believe they may all alert to a low battery in any one unit. I lhave a couple of smoke detectors in my monitored home alarm system. If you have gas appliances you should have both CO and explosive gas detectors. Is this overkill? Two of my neighbors died in a house fire at 7 PM on a Sunday night.
I turn off my water if I go away overnight. I worked in insurance claims for 29 years. You'd be surprised what can fail and cause a flood, even in warm weather. I had a toilet flush unit fail and dislodge the lid, flooding the the room and ceiling below. Luckily I was home within 5 minutes of the event. . A customer had a gushing leak in the second floor while the were away for two weeks. The claim was over $200,000.
 
Lowes and other places sell wireless linked smoke detectors by Kidde. . I believe there are wireless linked dual sensor units as well. If the basement unit or any other activates, the one next to my bed sounds. I believe they may all alert to a low battery in any one unit. I lhave a couple of smoke detectors in my monitored home alarm system. If you have gas appliances you should have both CO and explosive gas detectors. Is this overkill? Two of my neighbors died in a house fire at 7 PM on a Sunday night.
I turn off my water if I go away overnight. I worked in insurance claims for 29 years. You'd be surprised what can fail and cause a flood, even in warm weather. I had a toilet flush unit fail and dislodge the lid, flooding the the room and ceiling below. Luckily I was home within 5 minutes of the event. . A customer had a gushing leak in the second floor while the were away for two weeks. The claim was over $200,000.
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4 of my neighbors' houses burned, 2 of them to the foundation. I also had a friend who had a commode supply line burst while on vacation, over $50,000 in water damage.

I had a water heater burst in my house several months ago, luckily I heard it and shut off the water before any serious flooding.

If you look at industry stats, you are far more likely to suffer a fire in your home than a burglary, MANY times more likely. But we worry more about theft than fire damage.
 
M1gunner:
When the CO detector sounds, get out of thee house, leaving the doors open. Call the FD.
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We have had seven smoke alarms in the house for many years.

First thing we learned is that they have a life span. If they are ten years old and work fine, replace them.

We were gone to work for the day when a neighbor noticed smoke in our kitchen. We had two alarms in the kitchen, plus one in a connecting hall and one in the dining room. That was in addition to one in a connected basement stairwell and two on the second floor.

The neighbor called the FD and me. I called the FD and told them they certainly had MY permission to break in as needed, and how to disable the burglar alarm.

They did, found a pan on the stove with breakfast I had forgotten, burning merrily, no significant smoke damage YET. They also tested the smoke alarms and found four of them inop. They were all over 10 years old and I had replaced the batteries in them and tested them all within the past year.

In addition to simply wearing out, newer ones use newer technology. It is worth upgrading.

I was one of the city FD commissioners at the time and so got a humorous lecture. I ALSO got a lesson in detectors and their limitations.

We've also had a CO detector for many years. It is 110V wired with battery backup. Like the smoke detectors it beeps when the battery is low. Also like the smoke detectors is seems to be a ventriloquist that can throw its "voice" quite a ways from its location. Took me a while to believe it was that battery.

The only likely source for CO in our house is the furnace. So, while CO is heavy and tends to sink to the floor, when the furnace distributes it we know it can be almost anywhere.

Most fire departments will tell you that education over the past generation has been very good, and structure fires are increasingly rare. That's true in middle-class neighborhoods and above. In poor neighborhoods people can't/don't pay their gas bill, the gas is shut off, and they buy cheap electric space heaters and wind up with a fire. This past winter Milwaukee experienced deaths when one family used a kerosene or other type of gas heater indoors and suffocated from CO.

Despite laws prohibiting the gas company from shutting off the gas for lack of payment, many low income people are at the mercy of landlords who may not qualify for that exemption, or who don't apply for it. Sometimes it is the landlord who shuts it off.
 
M1gunner:
When the CO detector sounds, get out of thee house, leaving the doors open. Call the FD.
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Absolutely correct. But the usual response is to assume it is a false, and disable the alarm and go back to bed.

There was a Dr. in Mass about 10 years ago, IIRC, that had one continue to go off overnight. He unplugged it and went to work early the next morning. He came home that evening and his wife and kids were all dead from CO poisoning.

Get out and call the FD, no exceptions.
 

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