Manual safety modification

i haven't had the problem w/ the 9C safety during recoil. My grip has my thumb resting on the safety. A grip having your thumb below the safety would make it more likely to have the thumb rise a bit during recoil and put safety back on. Probably w/ your left hand squeezing the gun harder when firing that puts upward pressure on your right thumb.

i suppose the safety could get looser after more use as well. I don't know.
 
I bought my .40's both w/safety as I was a newb and wanted the piece of mind that it would take me one more step to make a mistake. I trained with them, no issues and got used to them.

I found that through normal everyday activities (at least for me) ie. enter/exit car, sitting in recliner etc. I spent more time checking the position of it, as it was 50/50 where it would be.

Removed them both and now it's 100% ready as am I with proper training.
That is very worrisome 50/50
Worse thing Glock did was invent that trigger
The semis should have triggers like DA revolvers then safeties are not needed instead of trying to clone Clocks
I would like to see AD statistics of revolvers versus Clock type triggers and I don't mean by dropping etc
 
Let me start by saying that I was a law enforcement officer for 35 plus years. I am retired now but I still qualify with my weapon once a year, to keep my permit up to date. I believe in safety's on handguns. They could save your life. I bought a M & P in the 9 MM C version, with a safety, and I started carrying it. I noticed that the safety is very easy to move on and off, too easy! Often during qualification, the safety would change positions during recoil. I send S & W a letter about the problem and they sent me a new spring, the small block and the safety lever itself. I immediately installed them but the safety was still too easy to move on and off.
I tried purchasing parts from Brownells to make the safety stiffer but they referred me back to Smith. I checked several other gun shops and the M&P's that they had in stock were the same way. I wrote Smith a letter on May 12 explained the problem and the fact that a potentially dangerous situation could occur if the lever ended up in the wrong position during an emergency situation. I suggested making the safety lever much smaller, like the safety on the shield. That is tight and doesn't change position from recoil or wearing it in a holster. I am still waiting to hear from them, in fact today June 13, I wrote them a follow up letter asking if they received my letter from May 12. I believe that this is a defect that should be addressed, and they could be loosing business with large PD's that want a safety on their service weapons, but one that doesn't cause problems. If I wanted a service gun without a safety I could have bought a Glock, but I have always been loyal to Smith & Wesson. I hope that they come up with a solution to this problem.
I agree with you
Worse thing S&W did was trying to clone the Clock Trigger
You aren't going to hear from S&W because you are right and I am sure your letter caused a stir
Too much $$ already involved in their design
 
The holster was not my issue either, it was the rubbing against the car seat, or getting in and out of a recliner for example that would slide it into the off position.

Removal was the only option for me, and just follow the 4 rules. GTG!

rcp1936,
Have no worries about the safety being switched off by the holster; it won't.


That's why they came off......But as a newb, I felt they were essential.

That is very worrisome 50/50
Worse thing Glock did was invent that trigger
The semis should have triggers like DA revolvers then safeties are not needed instead of trying to clone Clocks
I would like to see AD statistics of revolvers versus Clock type triggers and I don't mean by dropping etc
 
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