May have gotten my first and last Toyota...

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Well last year the Mrs. and I decided it was time to have a mini-van with having 2 kids, the mid-sized sedan and extended cab pickup were pretty darn full with 2 car seats, and all the gear that goes along with it. So luck happens to shine on us and we find a 2005 Toyota Sienna, an actual little old ladies car, with only 16,400 miles on it. About a month ago, the driver's side door starts making this horrible popping sound as you open it-so I grab my trusty can of WD-40 and spray the hings and the check-rod that goes into the door--that keeps the tension on the door as you open and close. Well that doesn't fix it, so my father-in-law takes a look at it at his garage. The bracket that holds the check-rod inside of door is ripping itself out of the door.

I would warn other owners, but where the last year affected was 2006, you would be out-of-luck as well, in regards to the "Warranty Enhancement" that Toyota did to extend the warranty to 5 years 100,000 miles--instead of actually recalling the defect.

Call a body-shop, and they are familiar with the issue, and direct me to a local dealership to see about warranty/recall. Call the dealership, they tell me I am SOL, as the coverage is for 5 years or 100,000 miles, the van falls well within the mileage with now 25,400 miles, but is 2 years past. Ask what the fix is, and they tell me I need a new door, and replacement cost will run between $2,000 - $3,000. :eek:

Now I go to the trusty web, and see a specific website devoted to the issue--which apparently affects 2004-2006 models. Heck even found a Facebook page created for just this issue. So I call Toyota, to beg for mercy with them, and get the same "too bad, so sad" story.

So now, back to the repair shop. They tell me they think they can repair it, so we take it in for an estimate. Well they are confident that they can fix/weld it, which requires:
1.Taking the door off
2. Gutting it of panel, all window & electric items
3. Welding it from the inside
4. Welding it from the outside.
5. Re-painting area affected.
6. Reinstalling the guts of the door
7. Remounting on vehicle.

So the shop calls us back, and says our options are to repair for an estimate of $450, or replace entire door which would be between $1,200 and $1,500 (the replacement door itself being $800.) So looks like the door will go under the knife this week for repair. Have to tell my wife to open and close the door more easily next time, not sure what else to tell her as Toyota couldn't give me an answer when I asked how I could have gotten into the van differently to avoid the door breaking.
 
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You said you bought it from "a little old lady". I've noticed a trend of older people grabbing the door of a vehicle, putting virtually all their weight on the hinges, in order to pull themselves in or out of the vehicle. The hinges were designed to bear the weight of the door, but not the weight of a grown human being. I'm not saying that's what happened, just sharing a thought of a possibility.
 
Caj, remind me to never get you mad! Is there anything I can get you, a nice bottle of your favorite beverage? 12 year old Scotch? You name it I'll overnight it to you, please dont sell my dogs to the gypsies.............:eek:
 
Sue the little old lady who sold it to you! Get a judgment against her-seize her cat and sell it to the gypsies. Seize her pictures of her grandkids-tell her you will shred them unless she pays. There are ways......... :D

Good advice!

Those tactics have always worked for me.......:p
 
Well the actual problem is not the hinges. It is the rod system, that stops that door at certain points as you open and close it. So that say the wind can't just blow it shut, or when you open it--the door doesn't just fling open and pivot too far foward inpacting the front fender.
 
The early Sequoias have a plastic gear in the rear door latch system that is notorious for failure. About an $800 fix at the dealer. I took it to my body man and he did it for $300 and guaranteed it would never break again because he didn't ever want to fix another one. Also yotas are famous for the ignition tumblers wearing to the point of won't start. Again the dealer was way high so my body man pulled the ignition and I took it to the local locksmith who charged $35. Seems like the whole bill was $250 to take apart and put back together.
 
Replaced the ignition switch in my 98 corolla. Cost about $30 on the 'net. I carry 2 keys now, as the doors are the same as original, but it was cheap enough to carry the extra weight.

Some ideas just don't work.

I hope you get it corrected cheap.
 
Wife drives a 2006 Sienna. We bought it new and have driven it 75k trouble free miles. If one of the side doors gives out i'll tell the wife to use the other side. ;)
 
Sue the little old lady who sold it to you! Get a judgment against her-seize her cat and sell it to the gypsies. Seize her pictures of her grandkids-tell her you will shred them unless she pays. There are ways......... :D

So many willing to sue nowadays, what's going on in this world? :p
 
I have a 2007 Rav-4. Took it in for a strange noise. Told me they had bad and terrible news. Bad news was that the water pump was expensive-cost was $289.00. And the terrible news was they had to pull the engine to do the replacement. Car had 67,000 miles and the total bill was $1600.00.
 
The early Sequoias have a plastic gear in the rear door latch system that is notorious for failure. About an $800 fix at the dealer. I took it to my body man and he did it for $300 and guaranteed it would never break again because he didn't ever want to fix another one. Also yotas are famous for the ignition tumblers wearing to the point of won't start. Again the dealer was way high so my body man pulled the ignition and I took it to the local locksmith who charged $35. Seems like the whole bill was $250 to take apart and put back together.

See the locksmith FIRST.
 
Sue the little old lady who sold it to you! Get a judgment against her-seize her cat and sell it to the gypsies. Seize her pictures of her grandkids-tell her you will shred them unless she pays. There are ways......... :D

If she's recalcitrant, seize her grandkids, as well as her cat, and threaten to shred them. Bet she'll pay up, pronto.
 
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Need to shed a few pounds, I'll pull her.
Might as well since, oh horsefeathers,
Maybe I could get one of them easy store jobs.
Hello, welcome to (fill in the blank).
Naw I'll go back to Law School, Thats it!
I'll be able to advertise on the TV.:eek:
 
Having had a car without a functional restraint rod, I'd strongly consider the "do nothing" option and tell the wife to make darn sure she doesn't allow the door to open too far.

As far as Toyota's refusal to fix the vehicle or even chip in for the repair, I frankly don't understand the offense. Apparently warranty language -- 5 years or 100,000 miles -- isn't plain enough, so perhaps this will help: if you buy a six-year-old used car with a five year warranty, IT IS OUT OF WARRANTY.

I've never owned a Toyota, but I've owned my fair share of geniune GM junk that I've bought well out of warranty. When it breaks, *I* get to pay for the fix. This is how it works. And don't even get me started on my 2000 Dodge Grand Caraturd. This rolling pile of iron oxide has had every predictable problem that this laugher of a car maker imbued when it designed and built (or not) my van. If I asked them to pay, they'd laugh me out of the room, and they'd be right to do so.
 
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Well, at least Toyota seems to be somewhat honest in describing their vehicles in some instances, haven't you noticed all those little trucks running around with TRD proudly proclaimed on the rear fenders?
 
Having had a car without a functional restraint rod, I'd strongly consider the "do nothing" option and tell the wife to make darn sure she doesn't allow the door to open too far.

As far as Toyota's refusal to fix the vehicle or even chip in for the repair, I frankly don't understand the offense. Apparently warranty language -- 5 years or 100,000 miles -- isn't plain enough, so perhaps this will help: if you buy a six-year-old used car with a five year warranty, IT IS OUT OF WARRANTY.

I've never owned a Toyota, but I've owned my fair share of geniune GM junk that I've bought well out of warranty. When it breaks, *I* get to pay for the fix. This is how it works. And don't even get me started on my 2000 Dodge Grand Caraturd. This rolling pile of iron oxide has had every predictable problem that this laugher of a car maker imbued when it designed and built (or not) my van. If I asked them to pay, they'd laugh me out of the room, and they'd be right to do so.

I think his issue is that toyota new about the problem and "extended " the warranty on that item. That just passes a known problem down the line.

I inherited my mothers toyota when she passed away ( 8 years old with 3,500 actual miles ) when it hit 10,000 there was a computer problem that toyota "extended" the warranty on. They said NO, I said small claims, they fixed free.

There are ways, some FIXES are cheaper than a fight and publicity.
 

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