Mip or Clagazine

[Shooting Padre]

Ok, I know that the M&P 15-22 uses a magazine. But somewhere in the many years I've trod this sod, I've forgotten the difference between a clip and a magazine. Seems years back we had clips. In the service we had mags. Can someone help an old gunners memory? This just seems like an interesting question.

 

[Bullzaye]

Generally, clips are devices into which cartridges are placed, for the purpose of quickly charging a magazine, via an adapter, often referred to as a spoon. So, one would carry magazines to quickly reload their weapon during a battle. After the battle, one would pull the clips (stripper clips, in this case) from their pack or what-have-you, and would quickly reload their magazines using the clips and the spoon.

In the case of the SKS (and most WWI & WWII era bolt rifles) the clip holds cartridges to be loaded into the rifle's internal magazine. It's simply quicker and handier than loading one round at a time.

In the case of the M1 Garand, an "en bloc" clip is used, which is a metal clip which is entirely inserted into the rifle, which holds the cartridges in place, and allows the rifles internal follower to advance the cartridges into the chamber.

Hope this was helpful. Someone else will likely come along and explain it better than I have.

Tim

 

[lonejacklarry]

I'll try:

A removable magazine usually has some sort of device to feed the ammunition such as a spring and a follower.

A clip holds ammo together to facilitate loading. One such example is a stripper clip that is used w/ a little funnel type of thing to load magazines 10 rounds at a time. (Nomenclature was never my strong suit!)

As I remember, the M-1 Girand used a clip to load a box and the M-14 used a removable magazine that was placed into the magazine well from the bottom. Ammo on stripper clips could be used to reload the magazine w/out removing it from the weapon.

Clear as mud? Maybe someone w/ a better grasp of English will clear it up more better.

 

[Brett248Vista]

Clip:

Magazine:

Any questions????

 

[lebomm]

How about; magazines have moving parts, clips don't ?

 

[srgvaz]

Found this..

 

[Brett248Vista]

How about; magazines have moving parts, clips don't ?

The bullets move in the clip

 

[Rustpot]

Clip:

http://www.gunpundit.com/2008/762_russian_clip.jpg

Magazine:

http://www.defensereview.com/stories/cammenga/EASYMAG.jpg


Any questions????

Why'd you use such HUGE images?!

The device that holds, protects, and advances rounds for feeding is the magazine of the weapon. Some guns have fixed or internal magazines, some gun have removable magazines. Clips are pieces of metal that carry a number of rounds to facilitate faster loading into magazines.

 

[lebomm]

The bullets move in the clip

But the CARTRIDGES are not part of the clip, and, in fact, move thru a magazine as well.

 

[grimreaper21]

if you aren't too above the idea that video games can promote learning this video has some potential. i'd skip to around 2:00. you can clearly hear the nice action of the garand and see a demonstration of the clips when loaded. YouTube - Battlefield bad Company 2 multiplayer weapons M1 Garand Veteran Gameplay Part 1

 

[E6type]

Challenge:

Show any firearm's operators manual, owner's manual, training manual, technical manual, parts list or diagram in the history of firearms that has referred to the magazine as the "clip".

Go ahead.

 

[kd4gij]

Challenge:

Show any firearm's operators manual, owner's manual, training manual, technical manual, parts list or diagram in the history of firearms that has referred to the magazine as the "clip".

Go ahead.

Here you go Remington Used to call it a Clip mag. in all of the manuels

http://stevespages.com/pdf/remington_580.pdf

 

[Brett248Vista]

Why'd you use such HUGE images?!

The device that holds, protects, and advances rounds for feeding is the magazine of the weapon. Some guns have fixed or internal magazines, some gun have removable magazines. Clips are pieces of metal that carry a number of rounds to facilitate faster loading into magazines.

Got my point across

 

[whoppo]

Got my point across

It's very entertaining as well.. if you scroll up and down over the shot of the stripper clip full o' what appears to be 7.62x39's it almost like they're doing a little dance.... just for you!

(yes... I am easily amused)

 

[Shooting Padre]

Hey, thanks everyone. We did use stripper clips in the service to load the M-16 magazines. It just seems at times terms become interchanged and used for different items. I think these posts really cleared the issue up for a lot of folks. i loved SRGVAS's example, funny and got the point across. It is a pleasure to be part of this forum and I again thank you all.

 

[tacticool22]

Found this..

That is the best example I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing.
It seems like the easiest way to get it straight for members of Congress is clips load from the top down and magazines load from the bottom up, generally speaking. Is that a "loaded" statement???

 

[tacticool22]

Clip:

Magazine:



Any questions????

What in the world is that magazine? I have never seen an open faced mag. It looks like there might be a slide over cover??