Smith357
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I had a Citori upland hunter that was used for 3 seasons of sporting clays. It was a very well made gun and performed flawlessly while I owned it.
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GatorFarmer
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They make a lot of things. They've made flintlocks, matchlocks, and percussion guns over the years. They've also made a copy of the Chief's Special for the local market and I think a couple of other handguns that aren't commonly seen in the United States. Japan is a first world nation and capable of excellent quality of manufacture.
Miroku also made the excellent Charles Daly double guns. I owned several O/U's that were built during the late 60's, bought through the PX system in Vietnam for about $200 and shipped back to the U.S. Excellent shotguns in every respect.
The Shotgunworld.com forum is an excellent source of information on all shotgun questions.
The Shotgunworld.com forum is an excellent source of information on all shotgun questions.
Faulkner
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I guess you can call what they make reproductions. Kind of like calling the products made by Toyota and Honda and Kabota reproductions.
I'm a heretic who dares to say that his Miroku Brownings are every bit as good as their FN Belgian cousins - and I own and shoot both!
Doc Holliday
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My first gun in 1972 was a Miroku Liberty Chief. Not exactly a copy of a Chief's Special, it was 6-shot .38 Spl, 2" brl, small round butt, IIRC the cylinder turned in the Colt direction...
A really solid and good looking gun, not a cheapo at all. I wish I'd never traded it off...
A really solid and good looking gun, not a cheapo at all. I wish I'd never traded it off...
Miroku also makes wooden steering wheels for cars....
I called 'em up once. I was trying to eliminate the rebounding hammer in my USRAC Winny 1886 mentioned above and since the Browning '86 did not have the rebounding hammer asked if I could replace the part in question on my USRAC with the Browning part. They said it wouldn't fit. But, I've wondered whether they were just blowin' me off or whether that is true.
My gunsmith did eliminate the rebounding hammer, but downside is you can pull through halfcock. So I worry that someday if someone is dumb enough to use halfcock as a safety it coud lead to an ND....
I called 'em up once. I was trying to eliminate the rebounding hammer in my USRAC Winny 1886 mentioned above and since the Browning '86 did not have the rebounding hammer asked if I could replace the part in question on my USRAC with the Browning part. They said it wouldn't fit. But, I've wondered whether they were just blowin' me off or whether that is true.
My gunsmith did eliminate the rebounding hammer, but downside is you can pull through halfcock. So I worry that someday if someone is dumb enough to use halfcock as a safety it coud lead to an ND....
29aholic
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Having shot literally 10's of 1000's of rounds through a Citori skeet gun using International (read HEAVY) loads, I can tell you they will hold up under some extreme use. I will say they aint too hip on rebuilding guns that have been shot loose though.
gregintenn
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I have no complaints about my citori. A friend has a grade 5 model 42 repro from Miroku that is second to none!!!
I currently own a Win-52 and a Browning A-22 made by Miroku. I think that they are excellent guns and are worth their cost. I used to own a BT-99 made by them too. I wish that I still had that trap gun. -S2
I had the plain grade Repro Model 42 .410 shotgun. Bought it NOS a few years back. Used it caringly. It worked just perfectly. I sold it when I was offered way more than I paid and more than I figured it was worth.
Kind of missed it since then but recently found a decent real one (VR/Skeet)as a basis for an upgrade. So all is well again.
I wouldn't hesitate to get another though. Nice quality through out.
I did read from some users that pumping the action after the fired shot required the concious effort of a short forward push before the rearward motion. I never found that to be true.
Kind of missed it since then but recently found a decent real one (VR/Skeet)as a basis for an upgrade. So all is well again.
I wouldn't hesitate to get another though. Nice quality through out.
I did read from some users that pumping the action after the fired shot required the concious effort of a short forward push before the rearward motion. I never found that to be true.
The (very) short forward push is only required when dry firing model 12's (not sure about 42's). When firing loaded shells, your hand does it automatically due to recoil, without the shooter being aware of it.
straightshooter1
US Veteran
I am a trap shooter. I shoot seven days a week for 7 months and five days a week for the other 5. In 3 day shoots (tournaments) we shoot three hundred on Friday, two hundred on Saturday and two hundred on Sunday plus a round or two before it starts in the morning and, if favored by skill or luck, a round or two in the shoot-offs to decide the winners. At the big shoots, Satellite Grands, we shoot two or three hundred a day for six days, at the Grand American, we shoot the same amount for 12 days.
Most days, for practice, I shoot 150-200 rounds, sometimes more. That's a lot in a year.
One of the most common guns we see is the Browning-either a BT-99 or one of the various Citori Trap models.
With that many rounds to shoot, the guns have to hold up and the Brownings do. They work and work and work. Many shooters are using the BT-99 they bought back in the 70s or 80s and it is still going strong.
No one who shoots trap seriously would have a gun that wasn't reliable.
The Mirokus are just fine.
I started with a Citori O/U that was owned by a man from the 70s till he died thirty years later. It had a lot of rounds through it. I bought it, used it for a year and shot about 7000 rounds through it and sold it to a friend who used it for another year and sold it to another guy-AFIK it's still breaking birds.
Bob
Most days, for practice, I shoot 150-200 rounds, sometimes more. That's a lot in a year.
One of the most common guns we see is the Browning-either a BT-99 or one of the various Citori Trap models.
With that many rounds to shoot, the guns have to hold up and the Brownings do. They work and work and work. Many shooters are using the BT-99 they bought back in the 70s or 80s and it is still going strong.
No one who shoots trap seriously would have a gun that wasn't reliable.
The Mirokus are just fine.
I started with a Citori O/U that was owned by a man from the 70s till he died thirty years later. It had a lot of rounds through it. I bought it, used it for a year and shot about 7000 rounds through it and sold it to a friend who used it for another year and sold it to another guy-AFIK it's still breaking birds.
Bob
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Freischütz
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I have 2 Miroku M95s - a 30/06 and a 30/40 (converted to 405). Both are excellent rifles.
I especially like the coil hammer springs. I used to worry about the original Winchester springs breaking while I was out hunting.
My main dislike is the "Schnabel" (if I dare call it that) on the forearm. The original Winchester is aesthetically pleasing. Miroku's isn't.
I especially like the coil hammer springs. I used to worry about the original Winchester springs breaking while I was out hunting.
My main dislike is the "Schnabel" (if I dare call it that) on the forearm. The original Winchester is aesthetically pleasing. Miroku's isn't.
My Browning (Miroku) BT-99+ single barrel trap has had over 70,000 rounds through it with no problems.
My Browning (Miroku) Citori Grade VI Trap is one of the prettiest guns I own (it shoots good, too).
My oldest Miroku is a Charles Daly Superior Grade Flat-Top Trap that was made in the mid-1960's. Fixed choke Full & Full that works perfectly in the game it was designed for.
Those people build good guns.
Buck
My Browning (Miroku) Citori Grade VI Trap is one of the prettiest guns I own (it shoots good, too).
My oldest Miroku is a Charles Daly Superior Grade Flat-Top Trap that was made in the mid-1960's. Fixed choke Full & Full that works perfectly in the game it was designed for.
Those people build good guns.
Buck
Snapping Twig
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I've got a Browning BPS made in Japan which I believe qualifies.
Very nice workmanship. I've taken birds with it and it looks fantastic.
Very nice workmanship. I've taken birds with it and it looks fantastic.
It's the same with the 42.
But some people swear that the reflex of the recoil does not unlock the repro 42, and that you have to manually do the forward action before pumping the action open.
Like I say,,I just never found that to be true with the one I had. Worked exactly the same as the other Winchester 42s I've had.
Very smooth action too.
They did do a bit of redesign inside on the repro. It does not have the so called 'slam-fire' capability that the original 42 does.
Actually the wrong name for it but everyone calls the feature that so it's easier to identify it by that term.
I'd guess the repro M12 were w/o it also,,but I've never had one so I don't know for sure.
I have had a B-92 .44 over 25 years and I have no complaints.
You are surprised by quality production from aJapanese company? You been in a coma for 50 years?
Joe
anglaispierre
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I was told that Miroku were making unauthorised copies of Brownings or Winchesters and were about to be taken to court. But the parent company realised the guns were of such good quality they signed them up instead. Don't know how true this is. Anyone else heard this?
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