Mod. 581 Pro' & Con's Please

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Good morning from snowy central Indiana. I may get a chance to purchase a 581 nice shooters grade, no box but original stocks. Please tell me your thoughts on this model and a price as described. Thanks in advance to all who respond.
 
I have a 681 4" which is the SS model. Best revolver I have. I use it for my house gun with a Crimson Trace Laser grip on it. It is very accurate with a good trigger. Loaded with Cor Bon DPX 357 mag ammo.
 
The stainless steel 681 is my favorite revolver for general shooting, in the field and for home defense. It is tremendously accurate with a super trigger and action. And I love the fixed sights. I have two 686s but I prefer my 681. I have zero cons.

I'd love to find a nice 581 and of course the 581 is the same as the 681 only blued. And for me that is the only con as it will show wear where the 681 will not. But, the blued 581 is probably a very scarce gun. I don't know the numbers but I'm sure not many were made. And having the original magna stocks is a plus. If the price is good, I'd buy it. Heck 681s are not easy to find so it might be a long time before you get a chance at another 581. So I guess the bottom line is whether you prefer blued over stainless. Good luck.
 
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Great gun and how snowy?

L frames are great revolvers. I have a 686 and love it. Check the end shake and make sure there is no push off. If you can check under the stocks for rust too. Also check the forcing cone and check the barrel. I carry a small flashlight for this but you can use a piece of white paper to reflect light into the barrel.

How much are they asking - ballpark? It amazes me how much knowledge this board has about the various models of Smith & Wesson so someone should be able to tell you if it is a good deal or not.

I am heading to Fort Wayne this morning. How bad is the snow as I am driving there from NY?
 
They were made in much smaller numbers than the Target sighted 586 but are otherwise the same gun. Depending on its exact condition I would guess it would be worth about $500. Good luck in your decision.
 
IMO... the 4" L frame is the best general utility/duty .357 revolver going.....grip frame and trigger reach of a K-frame..... forcing cone strength of the N-frame.

If it's in good mechanical shape $500 maybe a bit more ; it it's "anib" it could go for $600 to the right buyer around here....despite the internet local market prices vary.....

I bought one 15 years ago (around $400 IIRC).... first one I'd seen for sale in a decade and haven't seen another since. I foolishly traded it cus it was too nice to carry in Penn's woods..... I prefer a stainless gun for field carry; but I've got several other L frames 686,586s and a 681
 
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It was a grail gun for me. I was looking for one along time ago but the craze went to autos. I had some chances at police trade ins but passed. 15 years passed and I found a like new in box, I lost that one because i would not go up 50$ to 675$. I recently
Found another and paid about 800$ shipped. But I wanted a near new one. I’ve seen them go in the 600$ range but not in lnib condition.
 
NO REAL CONS FOR ME.

If you want to do a lot of longer range shooting, YOU may prefer adjustable sights. At my usual ranges of 10-20 yards my 681-ND is spot on and I BELIEVE faster to get on target, as it seems I just kinda ignore the rear "sight" groove and just look at the front sight. I do get a little grief from other shooters that give me the "not bad for a gun with no rear sight" line. A very solid gun with a good lock up. In addition a same barrel length model 617 makes a very nice practice gun for it. For 38 specials ONLY I'd probly go with a model 10 and save some wt & $. Did I mention, the fixed sights LOOK MUCH BETTER than the adjustable ones? LOL.
 
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Actually, I wish Smith was making
a 681 with 3-inch barrel with 7
round cylinders.

Or even incorporate the yoke lock
into a model and provide a 2.75 inch
barrel with fixed sights and 7 rounds.
The 2.75 barrel would allow a full
ejector rod length.
 
Pros and Cons, I'll make this short and sweet:

--PRO--
Fantastic L-frame hunk of tool, will last forever with proper care. Enough heft and girth to make shooting full nuts .357 Magnum enjoyable. Accurate, extremely well built and fantastic DA trigger that is warm to tuning for an even BETTER DA trigger, and obviously... an exquisite SA trigger. Scarce in production compared to the 586, and extremely scarce in production when compared to the 686.

--CON--
It's all about the price. The 581 is exactly the same as a 586 except that it has a fixed rear sight. The 586 is exactly the same as the 686 except it's blued carbon steel rather than stainless steel. Unless you really, really prefer the look of a fixed sight S&W revolver, there is nothing about a 581 that is an upgrade over the 586, except scarcity... if you like scarcity. If they had made the same volume of fixed vs adjustable sight, these would go for less money. The adjustable sight on any/every S&W revolver is NOT cheap or fragile, the fixed sight guns are lovable but there is very little reason to choose one over an adjustable sight, especially in a K, L or N-frame gun that won't be carried in a pocket.

SUMMARY
It's all about price. Folks typically chase a 581/681 simply to add a scarce, rare-ish revolver to their herd. It is not an upgrade over a 586/686. Unless you very specifically desire the smooth look of a fixed sight revolver, it is a downgrade. But they are desirable specifically because there are far, far less of them.

If it is priced like a 586, it is a very good buy. If it is priced LESS, it is a steal. If it is priced higher, it is a "collectible." ;)
 
The 581/681s are fantastic revolvers. Everyone I have handled has a great action.
I for one, prefer fixed sights, but I like dovetail fronts.
I modified mine, but I got it cheaply, before they were in such demand.
Only downside is that everyone wants 'em now!
 
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Don't think you can find a better utility revolver. Bought my Model 581 back in the early eighties as my first duty gun. The L Frames were all the rage at that time. Everyone I knew wanted a Model 686. Carried it for years, before switching to lighter K Frames. It was different and never knew anyone else in my area that carried one too. I still love it, but with my aging eyes, the fixed sights are difficult to pick up. Get one and you will have no regrets. Good luck!!
 

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A top utility gun

Forced to buy this one bout 18 months ago when a feller said wanna buy it?

$450.00 later I was walking...

A great 4” shooter and what I would call 95+%. Only thing I cannot figure out is the blue, it is not the three feet deep blue that I am accustomed to with the 1961 - 1980 years guns.

None the less it is a nice gun that I shoot often. I am partial to utility guns so this certainly falls in line with a model 58 and the Model 10's that I enjoy so much.

This one, #AAA 36xx from 1983 is a no dash and has not been sent back for the modification. Something to do with the firing pin bushing, should I consider it? If you guys can shed some light concerning the modification please enlighten me.

terry
 

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The recall is still done, quick turnaround and should be free including shipping both ways. Basically, the original hole is too large and it allows the rare primer to flow metal in to the hole -- locking the cylinder up tight.

I would indeed do the recall and I would never pass on a gun offered if it did not yet have the work done.
 
I have the 681 . It is very very accurate with all loads I shot in it . I only load 357 mag's for it , no 38's . I've shot from mild to wild and it held it's accuracy . Regards , Paul
 
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