Model 10-11

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Anyone got any information on a Model 10-11? It seems everything I can find on them says they're a heavy barrel, but the one I just bought has the standard tapered barrel.

Serial number is CEY6353, and is not located in the normal place on the bottom of the grip. Instead it's on the left side of the frame, at the bottom of the cylinder window. It's also in the normal spot inside the yoke, and on the grip frame in very small letters.

The Smith and Wesson, and 38 S&W Special Ctg (And I know what that means. :) ) are both on the right side of the barrel, the left side of the barrel is clean. All the roll marks are highlighted in "gold" wash. It's a round butt grip with Uncle Mikes type rubber grips, which cover the end of the grip frame and may be the reason the S/N was moved.

The cylinder stop is made into the frame, and the cylinder release is the new style. No lock. MIM hammer and trigger of course, and the firing pin is the floating type.





Probably more than you ever wanted to know about a Model 10.

Anybody know about when it might have been made? I'm guessing about 2000 or so, but that's sort of an educated SWAG.
 
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Interesting. I have a 10-11 but it was one of those Australian Police surplus heavy barrels that Buds sold about 5 years ago. Mine is standard has standard markings/ stampings though.

I have a SW Model 649-3 that has roll marks like that. It dated to about 2001.. Etched instead of stamped.
S/N CEU 3395. SCSW has a CEU prefix at 2001, It doesn't have a CEY but it has to be within a year of 2001.
Close enough to be the same year or era. It may have been a "thing" SW tried for a short time? Mine is a no-lock gun as is yours.
 
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Interesting. I have a 10-11 but it was one of those Australian Police surplus heavy barrels that Buds sold about 5 years ago. Mine is standard has standard markings though.. \
I have a SW Model 649-3 that has roll marks like that. It dated to about 2002 or 2003. Etched instead of stamped.
S/N CEU 3395.
Close enough to be the same year or era. it may have been a "thing" SW tried for a short time?

It might have been. When I was searching around, I found one reference to another (10-11) with the same markings, but it was a heavy barrel.
 
According to SCS&W4, the 10-11 was a tapered barrel among other changes from 10-10. Also noted is many 10-11s will have HBs as frames are used up and look like 10-12s. CEY 2000 -2001 maybe. Gold wash post production addition.
 
I shoot the heck out of mine. It almost always tags along in my range bag. The great thing about a shooter grade M&Ps..they were made to get shot and not worry about fussing over a scratch here or there.
 
I got this one as a close-out maybe a dozen years ago. Has keys for lock it doesn't have although the hammer is cut for it. I haven't fired it for no reason at all. Joe
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I'd say it's a bit unusual and would bet it was built for export. Just a guess.
 
The NY-1 Model 64's had the serial numbers on the side as well. So maybe part of a departmental order of some sort?
 
During the mid to later 1990s S&W sometimes put the primary serial number on the left side of the frame below the cylinder window. The ones I've seen had their secondary number on the frame where it is covered by the yoke. The ones I've handled were sold new through retail stores so the idea that a government agency special ordered the serial number location is speculation.

Another odd serial number location S&W sometimes used in the 1990s was the underside of the top strap.

That's a nice looking Model 10 but wood would better match the old fashioned looking tapered barrel.
 
According to my 3rd edition of the SCS&W the Model 10-11 was introduced in 1997. Changes to frame design: Eliminate cylinder stop stud/change to MIM hammer with floating firing pin/MIM trigger/change internal lockworks/tapered barrel.

The 10-12 was introduced in 1997 as well. Same design changes as the 10-11 except it had the heavy barrel.

The 10-13 was introduced in 2002 and had a limited run of 38 revolvers.

The 10-14 was also introduced in 2002 and it introduced the internal key lock system.
 
For some reason I thought the tapered barrel was made all the way up until recently. I thought they were both made. The Heavy Barrel was introduced in I THINK 1961. So they were doing both for a while. I think. I might be all wet. :)
 
The introduction of the 4" heavy barrel was the Model 10-1 in 1961.

The picture of the 10-13 (only 38 were produced) in the 3rd edition of the SCS&W is of a tapered barrel
 
For a while the tapered barrels were on the odd dashes and the heavy barrels were on the even dashes and they were produced concurrently rather than replacing the model.

10-5 Tapered
10-6 Heavy
10-7 Tapered
10-8 Heavy
 
For a while the tapered barrels were on the odd dashes and the heavy barrels were on the even dashes and they were produced concurrently rather than replacing the model.

10-5 Tapered
10-6 Heavy
10-7 Tapered
10-8 Heavy

OK, this I did not know. I thought they just made some with tapered and some with heavy... Not having to do with the dash.
 
The frame of the revolver pictured is configured to fit against a heavy barrel.
The frame for the skinny barrel would be tappered to match the rear of the barrel.
 
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