I have just located a model 14 with a 4 inch barrel and after a little research I believe it is a gun special ordered by Dayton supply. All looks to be correct and the serial range fits. The condition is about 98 percent. My question is how much of a premium over a standard 14 is this gun worth?
Model 14 Dayton gun
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Compared to a 6" model 14-2 of the same condition, I would plan on a 75-100% premium for a Hanen variant.
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a 14-2 "Hanen"
the "Hanen" and its 14-2 cousin
a 14-2 "Hanen"
the "Hanen" and its 14-2 cousin
I have found that with 4 inch barreled revolvers, a heavy barrel balances in the hand remarkably well.
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I always thought the Hansen, Dayton variant would be a good competition revolver. Never found one so, I can only imagine how it would compare to a Model 15.
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Thanks again murphydog
Confusing may be the wrong term. When I looked in the smith book the serial range on the gun was to high so I thought it must not be a Dayton gun upon more reading says multiple batches so it may be a straight gun , then this gun does not have diamond grips so again not good further reading either diamond or not can be ok and more detail about rounded magnas and a model 10 barrel not a cut down 14 barrel all add to what I was calling confusion. In the end I am confident that this is a Dayton gun. This forum is such a wonderful resource.
Confusing may be the wrong term. When I looked in the smith book the serial range on the gun was to high so I thought it must not be a Dayton gun upon more reading says multiple batches so it may be a straight gun , then this gun does not have diamond grips so again not good further reading either diamond or not can be ok and more detail about rounded magnas and a model 10 barrel not a cut down 14 barrel all add to what I was calling confusion. In the end I am confident that this is a Dayton gun. This forum is such a wonderful resource.
Engine49guy
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If you scroll down to post 48 in this thread you will see a side by side muzzle shot of a 14-2 Hanen Special (Dayton gun) next to a four inch factory Model 14-3 .
Some Combat Masterpiece eye candy
The Hanen special used the heavier profile Model 10 hb with a pinned raised ramp, you will notice the rib is thinner and has no serrations vs a factory Model 14 barrel .
I lost all my data recently but IIRC there were two or maybe three batches of Hanen specials with m total amount of guns made around 1k so not a common varient.
If you collect its a scarce variant that should be acquired if found in good condition.
If you are looking for a shooter usually Model 15, 19 , 67 or 66's can usually be found for quite a bit less.
My bets that close your eyes and pull any of them from a holster and you will not be able to tell one from the other.
Some Combat Masterpiece eye candy
The Hanen special used the heavier profile Model 10 hb with a pinned raised ramp, you will notice the rib is thinner and has no serrations vs a factory Model 14 barrel .
I lost all my data recently but IIRC there were two or maybe three batches of Hanen specials with m total amount of guns made around 1k so not a common varient.
If you collect its a scarce variant that should be acquired if found in good condition.
If you are looking for a shooter usually Model 15, 19 , 67 or 66's can usually be found for quite a bit less.
My bets that close your eyes and pull any of them from a holster and you will not be able to tell one from the other.
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Doug M.
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Remember that in the 60s - early 80s, when revolvers were still the predominant service sidearm for cops, one of the first things most serious shooters did was ditch the factory stocks for something else, often Pachmyer or other rubber grips. The collector issue was not important - utility and performance in a fight was not optional.
The only reason I regret dumping the original wood grips from my M58 is that they would be of value to someone here and I could sell them. I carried it as a service weapon for quite a while and the wood stocks would have made that a miserable experience.
Green Frog
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There are several K frame Models that have the full underlug one expects on L frames, and in a four inch barrel this means it's heavy, but the weight is closer to your hand. I like the 4'' Model 617, for instance, and there were a very few 38 cal models made in this configuration as well.
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Now you need the stocks.....?
According to the invoice dated 8/4/65 going to Dayton Gun Headquarters there were 180 blue and 4 nickel in that shipment. I think that puts those nickel guns in the...I hate to use the term, rare.
Retired W4. Thanks very much for sharing this info. Really makes my day! Thank you!
Dayton Model 14
IIRC (?) LAPD cut Their 6" K-38 revolver back to 4".
What serial number blocks would these be ?
IIRC (?) LAPD cut Their 6" K-38 revolver back to 4".
What serial number blocks would these be ?
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Back in the day, if you saw a copper with factory Smith stocks, you knew they weren't that serious about shooting.
Just a fact.
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YeshuaIsa53
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This is a very old picture, but the correct place to put it again. Please forgive the old picture. Yes, I used to carry one. One was purchased with a white outline rear sight. The center one was purchased with magnas, though someone here on the forum helped find another set of grips shown. Thanks again.
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Grayfox
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I have a 4" Model 14-3 that shipped in 1971. Its thought that it was one of approximately 100 such guns made that year as part of a Market Test on the popularity of this configuration.
Mine lettered as shipping with the 4" barrel on July 15, 1971 to Dave's House of Guns in Dallas. Others were shipped to Gil Hebbard and Olympic Wholesale.
Mine lettered as shipping with the 4" barrel on July 15, 1971 to Dave's House of Guns in Dallas. Others were shipped to Gil Hebbard and Olympic Wholesale.
