Model 19-4 average condition

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Hello all! Been lurking & learning for a long while and now it's time to ask for some specific wisdom: Finally found a Model 19-4 4" (no box) in south Texas and need help with how much I should offer. Lockup is nice & tight, smooth action, but the finish is 75% at best. Classic case of being carried a lot & shot very little. Worst area is minor barrel pitting around the muzzle. Pawn shop came down from $500 to $400 -- what do you all think?
BTW, they also have a very nice 99% Mod 13-3 3" & what looks like an old "pre" .38 Special K frame (I'm FAR from an expert) with a solid action but no bluing left -- both also listed at $500, no boxes, no papers... Decisions, decisions.

Thanks!
 
I think any revolver with at best 75% finish, pitting at the muzzle and that the seller drops 20% their asking price on, needs especially close mechanical and visual assessment.

I'd be concerned about pitting all the way down the bore. If it's minor "salt-and-pepper" it won't harm function but should bring the price down. I'd look closely at each chamber to make sure there's no pitting in there; pitting in a chamber can affect case expansion under fire and cause empties to stick during ejection -- unacceptable if a defense weapon.

I'd measure barrel-cylinder gap, headspace, endshake, uptake on each chamber in single and double action, and so on.

Sometimes a seriously cosmetically challenged revolver is only that, has great mechanicals and is a good deal as a shooter; sometimes, though, a cosmetically unloved revolver signifies a mechanically unloved one, too. And if there's anything mechanically in question, you have to pay to have that fixed and then the deal isn't such a good one unless you spotted the problem before purchase and used it to further drive the asking price down.

Often it's easier to pay a little more up front for a revolver in all-around good shape.

Here's a good link about assessing used revolvers for purchase: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6F...hLWE4YzMtOTdmN2YwNmY4NzM2/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1

All told, if the Model 19 in question checks out with flying colors on everything but the issues you already mentioned, $400 is about right in the current market. I'd still push for less.

The 3" Model 13-3 is a significantly more compelling purchase in this case, I think. $500 for the revolver alone isn't bad if it's in NRA Modern Gun Condition Standards "very good" or better: The National Firearms Museum: Evaluating Firearms Condition

The short barreled Model 13s are all-around outstanding revolvers for a variety of uses and are being hunted to extinction. I'd snag that now for $500 easy if it checks out mechanically and pick up a better 19 later.

Welcome to the forum. :)
 
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Wow, thank you so much for the detailed response! Exactly what I was hoping for from this forum. I'm familiar with that google doc on inspecting a revolver from another thread on this site but I needed a refresher. The other link you posted was excellent as well. I'm gonna follow your advice about the Mod 13 -- in my gut I knew it was the better deal of the two, but my heart was set on a Mod 19. I'll just have keep up the search for a better condition Mod 19. (Isn't that half the fun of all this anyway?)

Best regards,

Tiger915
 

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