I looked at a model 19-5 with a 2 1/2" barrel today at my LGS, the gun is in great condition, no box, rubber grips.
Is the 2 1/2" barrel a desirable version?
Is the 2 1/2" barrel a desirable version?
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Yes. The 2.5" is the most popular followed by the 4"
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WCCPHD
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The 2.5 inch is the most popular barrel length. The "dash 5" is not pinned and recessed as its predecessors were. That matters to some people and others don't care. I own P&R Model 19's and non-P&R 19's. The no dash are valued by collectors, but functionally, I find no difference.
OP
Is $740 a reasonable price?
Thats about right IMHO
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Maybe it would be if it was as new in box with its original wood stocks. I'm guessing that it also has at least a little wear. As I envision the 19-5 the price is high. As posted above, 19-5s are like 29-3s and 629-1s. They fall in between the vintage collectors want and modern up grades. On the other hand, the gun market is some what panicked so until the market settles down it might be the best deal you find.
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Tom_R
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It is probably about where it should be, and it would likely be years until you saw another one in the flesh.
Pre-lock magnum S&Ws are coveted by us.
stansdds
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Yes, the 2 1/2 inch barreled 19/66 are highly sought after. In today's market, a 2 1/2 inch barreled Model 19 of any sub-variant is going to command a premium price. The 19-5 is not in the pinned and recessed era, so collectors have less interest in the later revolvers. Without box and papers, it becomes a shooter grade revolver. Under normal times, maybe $600, but in in 2020, with COVID-19 panic, social unrest, and a presidential election, $700-$800 seems to be going rate for such a piece.
Yes, that’s a reasonable price. Buy it!
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I think you need to rethink your definition of a shooter grade revolver. The lack of a box/papers DO NOT make it shooter grade.
Stu
You beat me to it. I have a lot of collectable Smiths without box.
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OP
With all the helpful comments I bought the 19-5 today, I don't think the gun has been fired much if any at all. I removed the Hogue grips and replaced them temporarily with a pair of S&W grips that I had, I would like to find a set with finger grooves to fit my big hand.
Any help with a shipping date will be appreciated, SN is AWW43xx
Any help with a shipping date will be appreciated, SN is AWW43xx
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Its yellow front sight insert jumped out and bit me the instant I looked at picture. I suspect that the owner who cared that much about his sight picture was shooting it. However, I presume you bought it to use so a little prior use is not relevant after the purchase.
With full loads it's going to be noisy and kick a bit. Ugly but inexpensive rubber Hogue Monogrips make kickers the most comfortable for me. Let us know how well it shoots.
With full loads it's going to be noisy and kick a bit. Ugly but inexpensive rubber Hogue Monogrips make kickers the most comfortable for me. Let us know how well it shoots.
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OP
Tell me more about the yellow insert, prior to this all my others have red.
I'm going to (politely, I hope) disagree with some of the opinions posted above. Prices have gone up significantly, in the past few months. I always find it hard to assign a fair value to guns. Ultimately, they are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. But, lately, people are paying stupid sums for just about any thing that's available for sale. Regarding the OP's 2 1/2" 19-5, you can only find a few available for sale, anywhere. They show up rarely, locally, wherever you live. $ 740 is a steal. Today, GB has closed sales well over $1000, but there are only a handful up for auction, in the first place. You did great to buy that gun, at any price.
For my hand the round butt, combined with factory PC Magnas, and a Tyler-T, work great. The shape of the frame, really mitigates felt recoil for me. I think that the shape let's the gun roll in my hand, instead of whacking my palm...Good luck finding the Tyler's T-Grip Adapter. They've doubled in price, on the secondary market.
Lastly, and this is going against some of the traditional thought, but I fully enjoy shooting 158 grain JSP .357's through my 2 1/2" 19-5, wearing wood grips and a metal adapter. My hunch is that there is actually LESS recoil, because the short barrel develops less pressure. Plenty of noise and big fireballs, but less "kick" than my 4" 19-4. Or 4" 66. Or, dare I say 4" 28-2?! I truly believe that the round butt makes all the difference.
I think VAPA made an incredible buy!
For my hand the round butt, combined with factory PC Magnas, and a Tyler-T, work great. The shape of the frame, really mitigates felt recoil for me. I think that the shape let's the gun roll in my hand, instead of whacking my palm...Good luck finding the Tyler's T-Grip Adapter. They've doubled in price, on the secondary market.
Lastly, and this is going against some of the traditional thought, but I fully enjoy shooting 158 grain JSP .357's through my 2 1/2" 19-5, wearing wood grips and a metal adapter. My hunch is that there is actually LESS recoil, because the short barrel develops less pressure. Plenty of noise and big fireballs, but less "kick" than my 4" 19-4. Or 4" 66. Or, dare I say 4" 28-2?! I truly believe that the round butt makes all the difference.
I think VAPA made an incredible buy!
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Red was, and still is, S&W's standard color. It is very likely that the original red plastic was removed. Kits are sold to melt different colors of plastic to refill the sight.
There is a simple test to determine if a S&W revolver has fired very few magnum cartridges. Revolvers leave S&W with a sharp edge on the inside rear end of the forcing cone. That dulls quickly firing magnum cartridges.
stansdds
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The 19-5 is not a P&R and this one does not have the original stocks, per the OP. It sounds like it was likely used and perhaps carried. In my opinion, no longer a collector grade piece.
Tom_R
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Each year S&W continues to put locks on guns, the pre-lock Guns get more collectible.
He paid ~$740 for it.
If he were to sell it a year from now, he will make money on it.
It’s collectible.
Look at it this way, it’s like saying the pinned and recessed guns form the 5O’s to the 80’s aren’t collectible because they aren’t triple locks.
The pinned and recessed guns have gone up so much now, that the pre-lock Guns are getting much stronger in value.
