Model 329PD malfunction

Perhaps the frame cracked first right under the barrel threads.
It's possible that the extra fast impact velocity of the 180 grain bullet shocked the metal too much and it decided to retire.
Good luck!!!
 
Alot of times in the airlites the recoil will make the bullet jump its crimp. Sometimes it comes out far enough that it will hit the forcing cone and not cycle. I would guess that the bullet came out just far enough to cycle but it was lodged against the forcing cone just kinda pinched or wedged if you will and then fired. It is important to check all ammo in airlites before trusting. They usually tell you to shoot 4 and check the fifth round. I check after every shot on the first cyl of a new to me ammo. Ive seen alot of funny things with ammo in my 340pd.
 
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I have mixed feelings about S&W quality these days. Funny, as I've probably bought a new S&W revolver a month for the past year or so. Maybe more. This is one of those times when the phrase 'they sure don't make them like they used to' makes an awful lot of sense.

Accidents happen, I get, but this kind of QA is astounding and it's gonna take injuries and lawsuits before anybody at S&W sits up and notices. Too bad. I'd be plenty pissed with that as an end result...
 
Now that's some scary stuff. I don't shoot a 329, but I do shoot a 340PD. Let us know what you hear. Oh, I'm glad you'r OK.
 
I'm glad you weren't hurt. My 625-10 cracked while I was shooting it. So sad. :(

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Update

Just received word from S&W that they would exchange my blown-up 329 airlite for a .44 Magnum 629 Light Hunter. Just have to pony up additional 90 bucks. I personally think this is a little cheap of them since the airlite coulda caused massive personal injury...but I am getting a weapon that IS NOT an airlite...guess that's good for something.
 
Thanks for the enlightening post (saved me from making a mistake) as far as S&W's offer is concerned you're right they should have given you choice to pick the weapon you wanted within reason and it should have been

FREE
 
Yea, thats pretty small of them. Are you sure flinching trauma and mental suffering are not at such a point that maybe a lawyer need be contacted? Might even save some other poor souls eye. I know I will stay away from the lighter exotics that they sell. If you want a light pistol go glock.
 
"flinching trauma and mental suffering" That's a good one, Crackedwindshield. Will have to remember that one:)
 
I have a 357 PD as does a friend of mine on this board. Another two friends have the 329 and one other friend a 2" and 4" 325.... My gun has maybe 50 rounds through it, all but one cylinder has been reloads consisting of 8 grains of Unique with either a Berry's plated 210 or a Leadhead 230 Keith LSWC. Six rounds of factory Speer 210 Gold Dot HPs have been fired...so far no problems.

I also have several of the Taurus Trackers in both stainless and Titanium. I really prefer the TiTracker to the 357PD even though I loose one round.

If S&W is having all these failures, why I wonder did they bring the NightGuard series out.... It cold be that the desigh is sound but as the S&W tec said, the barrel could have been over torqued causing the frame to crack... This is nothing new as it has been happeneing on S&W aluminum frames guns since they began shippng them. I have one of the ex-Michigan State Police Bodyguards that has a frame crack under the barrel...

Personally I'll take a Mountain Gun any time and put up with the little extra weight.

Bob
 
I just ran into a fellow who shoots at a gun club in his home state. 40 members shoot regularly. Out of these 40 members 8 have had major failures of S&W Airlite models! I am not a statistics expert but this is really frightening.
 
Just received word from S&W that they would exchange my blown-up 329 airlite for a .44 Magnum 629 Light Hunter. Just have to pony up additional 90 bucks. I personally think this is a little cheap of them since the airlite coulda caused massive personal injury...but I am getting a weapon that IS NOT an airlite...guess that's good for something.

Really? An extra ninety bucks out of YOUR pocket because thier gun blew up? I would thank them for their kind offer and tell them to forget about the whole thing...Tell them you didn't realize their was a ninety dollar surcharge for a gun that WOULDN'T blow up...and they can keep the gun, and the money...Make sure you forward a copy of that email as far up the corporate ladder as you can...and point out that you will spend the next few years beating S&W on the internet like a junkyard dog..

Seriously, if thats their best offer, I wouldn't want a new Smith...Thats just insulting..

Are they so dense that they don't see that those 90 bucks are going to cost them hundreds of times that in lost buyers?

This is the same Smith and Wesson that gets praised all the time as a model of customer service...right?
 
Really? An extra ninety bucks out of YOUR pocket because thier gun blew up? I would thank them for their kind offer and tell them to forget about the whole thing...Tell them you didn't realize their was a ninety dollar surcharge for a gun that WOULDN'T blow up...and they can keep the gun, and the money...Make sure you forward a copy of that email as far up the corporate ladder as you can...and point out that you will spend the next few years beating S&W on the internet like a junkyard dog..

Seriously, if thats their best offer, I wouldn't want a new Smith...Thats just insulting..

Are they so dense that they don't see that those 90 bucks are going to cost them hundreds of times that in lost buyers?

This is the same Smith and Wesson that gets praised all the time as a model of customer service...right?

I'd be raising holy heck with them! Demand that 629 for free. Tell em you belong to this forum and WILL let everyone know about their crappy service!!! You are very, very lucky you were not injured when that thing blew.

I'll stand by my former statement. No 2 piece lightweight barrels for me. Give me an old no MIM, shrouded barrel IL lock S&W and I'm a happy camper. NONE of my old Smiths have gave me any trouble and I think I'll keep it that way.

JMO
 
Your misfortune has saved me agony. I had been eyeballing one of the 329pd and this tells me to stay away!!!
 
I've carried my 329 for five years - had some loads jump crimp, magtech and some other hc lead loads; I think the jumping crimp explaination is the most likely source of the the major malfunction. The story about S&W and their SH%% for brains customer service response will keep me seaching out pre-lock revolvers, but for now the scandium offerings are my daily carry, beaters. Thanks for the pictures and the heads-up.
 
A local dealer sheepishly showed me the remains of a customer's S&W Model 340PD Revolver. The cylinder blew into four pieces while shooting .38 SPECIALS!

The ammo was purchased with the gun, at the same shop which sold the 340.

Actually, she only had three of the four chunks of what was formerly the cylinder. The fourth piece is still in orbit, to the best of our knowledge. At least no one was hurt.

No reloads, no squib loads, just bad metal.

A new, $900+ revolver which doubles as a hand grenade.

The wife and I have a safe full of of old Smiths. Why anyone would want a new Smith is beyond us.
 
Mishaps can occur with any of these beasties, not just the alloy frames. I will only buy alloy framed revolvers for CCW, however, where weight is that important - where they will only carry 'normal' rounds - in a well-proven form. This limits me to .38 & .44 Specials - my 642 and 296. They work - and will be infrequently shot from here on out. I have other plinkers!

I was shooting my 629MG several years back one Saturday - 240gr LSWCs over small amounts of fast burning Titegroup in .44 Russian and Special cases - 200 of them over the day. Then - out of short cases - there was one box of homebrews left - 300gr LSWC over 6.2gr Titegroup in .44 Magnum cases. I knew better - even had difficulty loading them. It was late - I just wanted to 'ping' the steel plates at 110yd again. I had four good shots - hit the plate with the fourth one - then, that fifth round burst the cylinder & topstrap, a rear site screw chipped my safety glasses, and the primer cut my arm. It made no recoil - and only a 'Boomfff!' when it went off.

When I called S&W, their first question concerned reloaded ammo - I was honest - it never saw commercial ammo again after they test-fired it. They wanted to see it - and sent a pick-up. They agreed with my assessment - and Hodgdon's. The long bullet left insufficient room for anything dangerous, load wise, much less a 'double'. It was the lead/carbon fouling/build-up in the chambers - it slowed the crimp release on that big old hunk of lead - produced a pressure spike. I knew better... refreshing, however. It wasn't my loads - or carelessness there. It was just wanton stupidity, whew!

S&W called me and offered to replace it for a pittance - less than half dealer's cost - I was shocked, as it was clearly my fault - I related that. They said it was for good 'customer relations' - and because I was honest. A couple days later, I had a new 4" 629 (No MGs on line then - had to wait a day for a 4"-er to come off the line, be shot, and shipped overnite to me - talk about fresh! ). They were/are top drawer, in my opinion. Of course, they kept the parts - destroyed in testing, etc, returning just the barrel as the only part still useful. That may be the case with the 329, too - so what 'legal' proof would you have as evidence? I'd happily pay the $90 - and just be thankful you weren't injured. I felt blessed - especially considering how stupid and careless I had been.

Stainz

PS Hidden above, perhaps, is experimental proof of that old axiom about Specials (...or Russians!) in a Magnum chamber: Always brush/clean your chambers before going to the longer and higher pressure Magnum rounds.
 
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A new, $900+ revolver which doubles as a hand grenade.

:eek:Local shop I frequent has under the counter the 340PD 329NG and 629 that's LNIB each time I drop in same old question "Hey Bob when ya gunna buy one of those Ultralites you have been fondling?" Now I can say with no regrets "NEVER!" I'm sticking with Old School and don't mind the extra weight. :)
 
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