Model 36, Detective Special or Model 10 snubs?? What's Your Favorite??

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Alright, so I've been wondering for some time now why people always compare the Model 36 and the Detective Special instead 9f the Model 10 snub and DS? My guess is because the Model 10 is a little harder to hide than the 36 or DS. Perhaps it's because the Model 36 and DS (while also offered in lingerie barrel lengths) are primarily snubbies??

I always figured since the Model 10 is about as much bigger than a DS as a DS is to a 36, why not compare the two as they both are 6 shot guns?? What's does everyone prefer and why?? I know the differences of all, I understand arguments on both sides, just looking for people's personal reasons.

Now don't get me wrong, I love all of them. I already have a blued and nickel Model 36's, but no DS or Model 10 so far. However I do plan to own (one day at least) a blued and nickel plated Model 10 snubs and DS snubs (both 2nd and 3rd issue DS's). I am kinda odd in the sense that I love the idea of having both finishes of several different guns from the days of old. I would ideally like a blue and nickel 2nd issue (or 1st issue so long as it has the round butt feature) and 3rd issue. I hope to find 2nd issue grips for my 3rd issue ones once I aquire them though I have seen is no easy task. One website has walnut original (I'll call them magna grips for the sake of argument though a forum member pointed out to me Colts magna style grips are not called magnas) for 300 dollars for a set!! I'd never pay that much, but it is yet another obstacle I have found in looking to see how easy or hard it will be to get them. I also want a blue and nickel Model 10 snub. The problem is I love round butt AND square butt so that means 4 total in the end. Might make 2 of them Model 12's, haven't decided yet.

Now, I see the advantages of all, and the beauty of all. I love the Model 10's and ultimately consider myself a Smith guy over a Colt guy, but there are a couple Colts I'd love to aquire as stated above (Diamondback being the other). I love the DS's because they are every bit as classic as the 36 if not more. The prices can be outrageous sometimes, but on occasion I find them for a halfway decent price. I like the idea of having the extra round, but I love the easy concealability of the 36's. Both of mine are square butt and both are easy to hide in the waistband without too much clothing. My Model 15 snub with its square butt is quite a bit harder to hide unfortunately. If I had a round butt Model 10 snub it would be a bit easier to conceal. Like I said, I plan on owning several of each, but what do y'all feel about it?? Again I know all the pros and cons of each, exposed ejector rod (early DS style) or shrouded or with the lug on the 36 which does a good job protecting it, price differences, frame sizes, 36's easier to repair than DS, collectability differences, number of rounds, et cetera. Just wondering how others feel about it. Feel free to throw in Model 37's and Cobras/Agents as well.

I will say though, I don't much care for the Model 36 Classic Line, nor do I care at all for the DS SF IV (always wondered what that meant? Stainless Finish 4th issue?) and I definitely do NOT like the new Cobras. I also prefer (when possible) my Smiths to have pinned barrels (and recessed cylinders for the magnums). I think the only post-1979 Smith I like a lot is the 581 in 4 inch or 586/686 snubs. Don't much care for new 686's and I most assuredly do not like the current L Comp 586's at all.

On a side note, once I heard Colt was bringing the Cobra back, I figured it would look about like it does (atrocious in my opinion), but I still hoped it would be like the old school 2nd issue ones. Of course I was let down when I saw otherwise.

I personally feel that the late 70's was probably the best time for Smiths, before pinned and recessed features started to disappear. DS's pretty much look great from the beginning until their production was halted in the mid 80's I believe.

Send me some feedback please! Thanks!

P.S. I've included a couple pictures of my 36's below.
 

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They all about the same. They're all one-bad-guns at very close range. An extra .38 Special round probably won't be definitive.

I'm a committed Chief dude. It's light, fast, and very quick to battery.

The Chief is lightweight. It's a breeze to carry all day.

Years ago I had come across info that indicated that Detective Special was prone to experiencing issues with +P ammo. But that might have been opinion more than fact.

The reality is a good semi is a better option. I'm almost there, which is going back to my Model 60. But my P239 .40 S&W is much superior to my Model 60, especially were I to suffer the gave misfortune of encountering more than one bad gun who want to room temperature me.

I'll cop to being enamored of The Chief. But I wouldn't mind owning a Detective Special.
 
I'm a died-in-the-wool S&W guy.

The Chiefs Special is the epitome of a carry revolver. Compact, easy to conceal and the right caliber. The older, therefore the smaller (the Baby Chiefs), the better. Here are some of my favorites.

'52: 2" smooth ramp front sight, 1st style flat latch

'53: 3" 2nd style flat latch

'54: 2" 3rd style flat latch -- unique to nickel Chiefs

'55: 2" 4th style flat latch

'59: 2" 5th style flat latch (Model 36)
 

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I agree that the DS looked better than the new Cobra. However, if we compare it with some of the recent polymer-frame revolvers, it is a beauty!! Actually, I don't like too much the looks of the recent production Smiths, with the lock, and the enlarged frame, that seems less gracile than the older models. One thing I don't like of the Cobra is the fiberoptic sight, which looks a little fragile, and out of place in a revolver with relatively classic lines.
 
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I kind of agree with the above, "Never seen a snub I didn't like". I have settled on a J Frame, lightweight, 6 round, 32 H&R Magnum. More power than the 38, 6 rounds, lighter weight, what more could I want?



431PD and 432PD.

I will admit, before I found the 431PD and 432PD I did have a preference for K Frames, but wouldn't fit in my pocket the way the J Frames do.

 
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My carry gun is a J frame, Model 649-3 chambered for .357. Packs a healthy punch and is easy to pocket or carry IWB. However, I can't begin to tell you how much I love my K frame snubs (12, 15, 64). They are all on duty right now as home defense guns.
 
I like j frames for pocket carry but I think the M36 a bad choice for pocket carry because of the exposed hammer.

As a result, they’re relegated to belt holster wear.

Since the Colt DS or Smith M 10 are as easy to carry on the belt as the M36 but in slightly larger, more shootable packages with an extra round, I prefer the Colt or M10, not the M36.
 
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In 1974 I, along w/two other cops, engaged three armed robbers while carrying my issued Colt Detective Special and survived the incident w/one suspect dead, another under arrest and the third man arrested the following day at a hospital getting treatment for a gunshot wound. During my career I survived a total of three deadly force incidents armed w/my issued thirty-eight. I still carry my 340PD in retirement but a modern auto loader makes sense for today’s LEOs.
 
Can even go 7 shot...

Like H Richard's post, I too have a S&W Centennial in .32 H&R Mag with a 6 shot capacity. But there are times I carry the S&W 351PD with a 7 shot capacity. The Hornady Critical Defense 45 gr. .22 magnum cartridge does a credible job and the combination of light weight, light recoil and ability to use the smaller grips makes a winner for me. I carry front right pocket so whatever I carry, has to fit there and stay out of sight. The .380 S&W Bodyguard is about an inch shorter so with some pants, gets to ride around with me.
 
I own a 36-9 a 642 a 15-3 snub and a 1974 Colt Cobra. Sorry S&W fans but I carry the Cobra. The extra round, fantastic trigger and light weight do it for me. Cobras and Dick Specials made after 1973 are +P rated.

I'll admit to carrying my 1957 Cobra as well.



Bought it from a retired police officer who carried it for over 20 years.
 
I have never owned a S&W CS as it never appealed to me. I do have both a Pre-M10 snubby and a DS. I greatly prefer the DS. I am not high on the Agent or Cobra versions, as I just don't go for alloy frames. But I consider the DS to be the king of the smaller revolvers.
 
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