Gonzo, I just got back from the mail box and have the belt scabbard on as I'm typin' this. That's a record for Laramie postal delivery---(the mules have a hard time gettin' over the Summit...) Both are well made & I like they way the #3 holds the gun. Don't know if the extra leather down below is really necessary, but it's not uncomfortable I'll try it---don't know if I'd be able to find anything better. The scabbard is a little more comfy & rides up high enough to conceal fairly well. How does the Rosen check out?