Model 45-2
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bamabiker
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Congrats on a nice gun. I've never seen a M45 in person.
OP
I had never held one until this one arrived today. I wish they were not so hard to find as this one is a joy to shoot.
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That appears to be in very fine condition. Nice score. Did you get the box with it?
And, who is this John S.? Where can I get in touch with him?:D
bdGreen
And, who is this John S.? Where can I get in touch with him?:D
bdGreen
Scotter260
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Oh man, that may be my Grail Gun!
I feel blessed to be able to claim you as somone I "know" just because you own one and that's likely as close to owning one as I'll ever be. I'll live vicariously through you if you don't mind.
Thank you for the pic, it'd be marvelous even if it wasn't in such nice condition.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
I feel blessed to be able to claim you as somone I "know" just because you own one and that's likely as close to owning one as I'll ever be. I'll live vicariously through you if you don't mind.
Thank you for the pic, it'd be marvelous even if it wasn't in such nice condition.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
OP
No box sadly. I plan on lettering this one.
John Stonecipher is in New Caney , TX
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Thank you I am tickled over this one as well:)
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Now you have to be on the lookout for the box. :D :D
Enjoy,
bdGreen
Model 45-2
Enjoy,
bdGreen
Model 45-2
OP
That might be considered cruel:)
Now you have to be on the lookout for the box. :D :D
Enjoy,
bdGreen
Model 45-2
The Model 45 is a neat gun but I must admit I enjoy shooting my target sighted 22's more the the fixed sight gun.
STOP IT! You guys are killing me. I hope to see one in person before I die.
Regards,
Jerry
Regards,
Jerry
Scotter260
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While others are keeping the Model 45 to 45-2 pressure on...
I thought I'd repost these. Unfortunately at a weak moment I sold some of them, but I do still have three of them.
The letters from Roy Jinks indicate these guns were designed & manufactured at the request of the United States Post Office Department. They are sometimes referred to as the “Post Office” gun.
The letter also states that although these guns were made for government orders, & when there were overruns, they were sold to distributors for general sale. The approximate total quantity made as stated in the RJ letter is said to be 1500 guns.
Shipping locations and dates are by each of the guns in the pictures.
The earliest of these are two four screw versions, and called a .22 M&P, which can also be referred to as a pre 45. They are not Model marked. The two pre 45’s are exactly 100 numbers apart.
Two of these guns are Model marked 45-2’s and are only 170 numbers apart. The two letters from Roy Jinks indicate they both shipped on April 26, 1963 to H.H. Harris in Chicago.
The last three guns here are particularly interesting, in that they are not Model marked. The Standard Catalog of Smith Wesson book states that 135 of these Model 45 guns made in 1978 were not model marked. The letters from Roy Jinks refer to these guns as a Model 45 (no dash) and the end label on the box indicates that too (45-). Roy’s letter also indicates that this last batch of guns was built from remaining parts in inventory, and since these were not cataloged items, it was not necessary for production to mark them with model numbers.
The very last revolver I have shown is the last Model 45 serial number known in the S&WCA Survivor Files.
Here are All Seven in different poses for the camera!
This .22 M&P (pre Model 45) revolver was shipped to Sutcliffe Hardware Co. in Louisville, KY on July 25th, 1958.
This .22 M&P (pre Model 45) revolver was shipped to H.H. Harris in Chicago, also on July 25th, 1958.
This revolver (marked 45-2) was shipped to H.H. Harris in Chicago on April 26, 1963.
This revolver (marked 45-2) was also shipped to H.H. Harris in Chicago in that same shipment on April 26, 1963.
This next one is one that is not model marked. Notice the lack of any model designation on the frame. It shipped to Gil Hebard in Knoxville, IL on June 12, 1978
This next one is one also not model marked. It shipped to Lathrop Shooters Supply in Tucson, AZ on June 12, 1978
This next one is also not model marked. It is the latest known serial number in the S&WCA survivor files. It shipped to Cake-Davis Co. in Sacramento, CA also on June 12, 1978
I thought I'd repost these. Unfortunately at a weak moment I sold some of them, but I do still have three of them.
The letters from Roy Jinks indicate these guns were designed & manufactured at the request of the United States Post Office Department. They are sometimes referred to as the “Post Office” gun.
The letter also states that although these guns were made for government orders, & when there were overruns, they were sold to distributors for general sale. The approximate total quantity made as stated in the RJ letter is said to be 1500 guns.
Shipping locations and dates are by each of the guns in the pictures.
The earliest of these are two four screw versions, and called a .22 M&P, which can also be referred to as a pre 45. They are not Model marked. The two pre 45’s are exactly 100 numbers apart.
Two of these guns are Model marked 45-2’s and are only 170 numbers apart. The two letters from Roy Jinks indicate they both shipped on April 26, 1963 to H.H. Harris in Chicago.
The last three guns here are particularly interesting, in that they are not Model marked. The Standard Catalog of Smith Wesson book states that 135 of these Model 45 guns made in 1978 were not model marked. The letters from Roy Jinks refer to these guns as a Model 45 (no dash) and the end label on the box indicates that too (45-). Roy’s letter also indicates that this last batch of guns was built from remaining parts in inventory, and since these were not cataloged items, it was not necessary for production to mark them with model numbers.
The very last revolver I have shown is the last Model 45 serial number known in the S&WCA Survivor Files.
Here are All Seven in different poses for the camera!
This .22 M&P (pre Model 45) revolver was shipped to Sutcliffe Hardware Co. in Louisville, KY on July 25th, 1958.
This .22 M&P (pre Model 45) revolver was shipped to H.H. Harris in Chicago, also on July 25th, 1958.
This revolver (marked 45-2) was shipped to H.H. Harris in Chicago on April 26, 1963.
This revolver (marked 45-2) was also shipped to H.H. Harris in Chicago in that same shipment on April 26, 1963.
This next one is one that is not model marked. Notice the lack of any model designation on the frame. It shipped to Gil Hebard in Knoxville, IL on June 12, 1978
This next one is one also not model marked. It shipped to Lathrop Shooters Supply in Tucson, AZ on June 12, 1978
This next one is also not model marked. It is the latest known serial number in the S&WCA survivor files. It shipped to Cake-Davis Co. in Sacramento, CA also on June 12, 1978
OP
Very interesting :)
Thank you for the photos and education.
Mark
Thank you for the photos and education.
Mark
BUFF
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You just don't see these for sale under your local dealers' glass!
I bought mine in 1987 from a dealer's ad in ShotGun News, a fellow named Tommy Rholes.
The only one I had seen in person before I received mine was at a local shop. The owner had the gun Armaloyed!
These are still the only two I have handled, but then I don't get out much.
I bought mine in 1987 from a dealer's ad in ShotGun News, a fellow named Tommy Rholes.
The only one I had seen in person before I received mine was at a local shop. The owner had the gun Armaloyed!
These are still the only two I have handled, but then I don't get out much.
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Here is one that you don't see come up for sale very often. This one is unfired, unturned, and shipped to H. H. Harris in Chicago in July of 1958. It was sold out of a gun shop in Blue Island, Illinois to a gentleman that was identified as a 'collector' on the sales receipt. He was from Appleton, Wisconsin. He purchased the gun new in May of 1959. The gun shop was aptly named 'The Blue Island Gun Shop'.
I am the third owner.
This is one of my holiest of holy grails.
Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
bdGreen
Pre Model 45 with a six inch barrel.
I am the third owner.
This is one of my holiest of holy grails.
Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
bdGreen
Pre Model 45 with a six inch barrel.
OP
BD that is incredible thanks for sharing;-)
H P Bushrod
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This is what I love about this forum...the amount of information that's exchanged between S&W enthusiasts. 230grfmj, Your pre-model 45 was shipped with my .22 M&P on July, 25, 1958 to H.H. Harris also! I'd love to know how many .22 M&P's were received at the store that day. It took me awhile to find my gun. Thanks for sharing the pics of these rare treasures.
