Model 586 no dash all original

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I'm a new guy to the forums and wondered if some can shed some light on my new acquisition. It's a Model 586, with the original box and papers. It has no dash and appears to be unfired. there is the slightest ring from the cylinder being cycled, but it is mint other than that. I know there was a recall on these, but mine appears to have not had the recall work done.

Your thoughts:
Should I get the recall work done or no?
Should I shoot it, or put it in the safe?
If I decide to sell, how do I go about that?(Up in the air on selling)


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I was told that there aren't a whole lot of 586's unfired and no "M" stamp. is that correct?
 
There is no way knowing how many unfired 586's are out there, but the fact that the gun appears unfired likely increases the chance of it having no "M" stamp, as the previous owner would have had no way of knowing if the gun was malfunctioning - no internet in those days! That likelihood goes up if he never filled out and returned the registration card.


Either way, you have a very nice gun there. I am just one of many waiting in line to buy it from you! :D

kas
 
Great looking revolver and if it was sent in for the recall it would have an M stamped under the model number on the crane. Not all 686 and 586 had the problem so if you plan on shooting it I would go ahead and if the primers start sticking in the firing pin hole than call S&W and get the work done.
 
My 4" nickel no dash 586(That I bought when they were first introduced) has been shot a little and I did not send it back. Why fix it if it isn't broke. BTW It is my least liked S&W. It just occupies a spot in the back of the safe.
 
Very nice 586 you have there. I may need to add a 586 to my "wanted" list.

Out of curiosity, since it's a no-dash, what are the first three of its serial number? Wondering how early it might be.
 
I'm a new guy to the forums and wondered if some can shed some light on my new acquisition. It's a Model 586, with the original box and papers. It has no dash and appears to be unfired. there is the slightest ring from the cylinder being cycled, but it is mint other than that. I know there was a recall on these, but mine appears to have not had the recall work done.

Your thoughts:
Should I get the recall work done or no?
Should I shoot it, or put it in the safe?
If I decide to sell, how do I go about that?(Up in the air on selling)


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slowshooter,

To answer your questions:

1. I personally would not send it back to S&W. The story is that the early 586's had problems only with Federal .357 magnum cartridges because they had soft primers and the primers would deform or expand rearward and bind up against the firing pin bushing causing the cylinder to bind up and not rotate. I have a relative with a 586 no dash that does not have the "M" (modification of the firing pin busing) and he's fired a lot of .357 magnum ammo out of it without problem.

2. I cannot answer your question about shooting it versus putting it in the safe. In my opinion a LNIB (like new in box) 586 no dash is not too common. I have never seen one in person and only infrequently in on-line auctions. If you shoot it but take good care of it the value will go down a little and, if you ever decide to sell it, you will eliminate from your potential buyers the collectors looking for LNIB condition. If I had that I would put it away because I already have a 586.

3. If you decide to sell you'll do best to sell it at an on-line auction site like Gun Broker or Gunauction.com. You can also list it for sale here at this forum. There's a special section to sell used stuff. Click on Forum (left lower side) in the banner bar below the Smith & Wesson Banner bar at the top of the page and follow your way to the various forums on the right side of the page and scroll down to the section to sell stuff.

John,
Scoundrel and Ne'er-Do-Well in Training
 
My 686 has no 'M'....

I've fired really hot rounds in my 686 with no sign of trouble, so I didn't bother to send it in. There is a theory that very soft primers were the culprits, but the gun should handle them in all situations, anyway. I'm not worried about it.

PS. That is SOME find you've got there!
 
Hi, welcome to The Forum!. Your gun is super nice! I will not purchase a gun I don't intend to shoot.(that is just me) I have a 1983 no dash 4". Recall work not done. Probably never will be. It's a good looking and shooting Smith. I take care of it, but goes to the range. Enjoy your beauty! Bob
 
I'm in the "go ahead and shoot it" crowd. I would bet that the gun has already been shot anyway, judging by the turn line. I also have a no-dash 586, without the M stamp, and it gets shot. I haven't had any problems with it, so see no reason to send it in for the modification.

Clean it after each range session, and it will look close to new for a long time to come.

 
A gun that isn't fired isn't a gun at all. The paperweight or doorstop. I'm all about shooting mine.
 

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Nice revolver! I vote no on the recall.

I have a no dash 686 that has not been back for the M recall. I shoot it often and have had zero issues. I do avoid federal primers in that one, but Winchester, Remington, and CCI primers as well as their factory ammo all works just just fine.
 
I have bought 2 guns that were unfired outside of the factory...I shoot them both.:p They clean up fine and still look the same and I'll not go to my grave just to have someone else shoot 'em first. I don't plan to sell but if I did they would still be LNIB just not NIB. To me LNIB doesn't mean never shot just means looks new with no signs of wear.
 
Ive shot 10 to 15k out of my no mod 586. Lots with Federal primers too.
My gun likes Federal primers and it always goes boom. So much for that part.
You have a beautiful 586 there. If it were mine I would not shoot it. There are plenty of L frame shooters out there. There are not many LNIB and that it is complete, popular and nice I would preserve it.
Jim
 
I also bought a LNIB mod 586 no dash, loaded it with Remington .357 mags and the cylinder locked up on shot number 9. Mine will be going in for the recall cuz I can't have a gun that won't shoot dependably. It will shoot 38 specials all day long.
 

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