Model 645 Value question
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skjos
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$450 sounds like the going rate for a 645 in the condition you describe. I would have a hard time passing it up and I already own one.
dogsoldier
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LGS is asking $599 for one with walnut grips, 1 mag and no box.
t-bird
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That's a smoking deal that you should jump on now. Life is short buy the gun, best of luck and be sure to post some pics of your new toy.
Peter M. Eick
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Do you get the Dillon "blue press" magazine? If so there is a write up on the 645. It was interesting enough that one of my buddies is now looking for one so I said I would keep an eye out for it.
If I saw what you describe (OP) for that price, I would have just credit carded it just to hold it and called my buddy to come down and close the deal. (Avoiding the straw purchase issue of course).
If you don't want it and it is at a dealer, PM me and I will pass the info along.
If I saw what you describe (OP) for that price, I would have just credit carded it just to hold it and called my buddy to come down and close the deal. (Avoiding the straw purchase issue of course).
If you don't want it and it is at a dealer, PM me and I will pass the info along.
Local pawnshop has one in excellent condition with the box, original wood grips and 6 extra magazines for I think $650.
skjos
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They do clean up nicely.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/362344-645-before-after.html
This 645 came with one stainless magazine that has a metal base plate and a metal follower. I need to buy more. Just confirming that all 45 caliber 3rd Generation single stack magazines will work?
Also, found out that aside from Miami Vice using the 645 in two of their seasons, Marsellus Washington in Pulp Fiction, also used a 645.
Also, found out that aside from Miami Vice using the 645 in two of their seasons, Marsellus Washington in Pulp Fiction, also used a 645.
N4KVE
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Just got this for $400 on Sunday. GARY
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Stargater
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The S&W 645 is, to me, a much more desirable pistol than the Colt 1911s. And what's always puzzled me is that if S&W can make a .45ACP that is flawless in performance, why can't production 1911s be made that are equally flawless. Both guns have ramps, both have ejection ports, both are large pistols -- so why do so many production 1911s need work to become ultra-reliable?
In the first military trials, the new stock military 1911s they included as controls failed on an average of once every 26 rounds, if memory serves. The Beretta 92 failed on an average of once every 2,000 rounds, and the S&W failed on an average of once every 952 rounds (which is still amazingly good). Yet I remember all those gun writers, and one in particular, who wrote that history would record the change from the .45ACP to the 9mm as one of the most disastrous decisions of our age! Well, that call didn't work out so well for him, did it?
Today, every officer I've talked to says they need the firepower and the penetration far more than the psychological effects of a big hole in the shooting end. Yet, the .45ACP does quite well with lighter bullets with hollowpoints, but so does the 9mm with hollowpoints. That said, no one in their right mind would call the .45ACP anemic with modern ammo!
The Beretta and the S&W and other great pistols ushered in the age of ultra-reliability we now enjoy, even over such engineering marvels as the Browning Hi-Power. But then UR models in other calibers began appearing, and one of my all-time favorites is the 645. What's not to like?? Just pick up some extra mags and you can have a better gun than a 1911.
The first automatic (other than a Ruger Mark II) I really wanted to get my paws on was a S&W 659, which I saved my pennies for for a good long time. It still is, in my view, a work of art. Like later handguns in the S&W line, the looks of the 659 and 5906 were pretty much destroyed with their 2-tone revisions which, I'm sure, resulted in their fair share of cut corners. And while I'm sure they're still quite functional, they do appear to have suffered a few whacks from the old ugly stick S&W bought a few years back! So it always astounds me when a 659-, classic 5906- or 645-owner decides to sell one of these beautiful pistols, especially for under a grand.
The 645 (top) and the beauteous 659 9mm. Why would
anyone want to sell them? And why would anyone not want
to own one, or more?
The S&W 645.
.
In the first military trials, the new stock military 1911s they included as controls failed on an average of once every 26 rounds, if memory serves. The Beretta 92 failed on an average of once every 2,000 rounds, and the S&W failed on an average of once every 952 rounds (which is still amazingly good). Yet I remember all those gun writers, and one in particular, who wrote that history would record the change from the .45ACP to the 9mm as one of the most disastrous decisions of our age! Well, that call didn't work out so well for him, did it?
Today, every officer I've talked to says they need the firepower and the penetration far more than the psychological effects of a big hole in the shooting end. Yet, the .45ACP does quite well with lighter bullets with hollowpoints, but so does the 9mm with hollowpoints. That said, no one in their right mind would call the .45ACP anemic with modern ammo!
The Beretta and the S&W and other great pistols ushered in the age of ultra-reliability we now enjoy, even over such engineering marvels as the Browning Hi-Power. But then UR models in other calibers began appearing, and one of my all-time favorites is the 645. What's not to like?? Just pick up some extra mags and you can have a better gun than a 1911.
The first automatic (other than a Ruger Mark II) I really wanted to get my paws on was a S&W 659, which I saved my pennies for for a good long time. It still is, in my view, a work of art. Like later handguns in the S&W line, the looks of the 659 and 5906 were pretty much destroyed with their 2-tone revisions which, I'm sure, resulted in their fair share of cut corners. And while I'm sure they're still quite functional, they do appear to have suffered a few whacks from the old ugly stick S&W bought a few years back! So it always astounds me when a 659-, classic 5906- or 645-owner decides to sell one of these beautiful pistols, especially for under a grand.
The 645 (top) and the beauteous 659 9mm. Why would
anyone want to sell them? And why would anyone not want
to own one, or more?
The S&W 645.
.
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Funny thing about humans: Years ago I wished to have a 645, but sought an unused, no dash, in-the-box version.
Finally, it was found . . . and I haven't shot a single round through it.
So, I thought, "let's get a 945" which turned out to be an IPSC, in the box, of course, and haven't shot a round through it, either.
Sheez.
Finally, it was found . . . and I haven't shot a single round through it.
So, I thought, "let's get a 945" which turned out to be an IPSC, in the box, of course, and haven't shot a round through it, either.
Sheez.
dogsoldier
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I just remembered ONE other thing re: the otherwise EXCELLENT 645: Not long after introduction, S&W issued a RECALL for the OEM mags. Improper heat treating allowed for stress cracks to form in the back edges of the feed lips. S&W promptly replaced any cracked mags with new ones having the correct heat treatment.
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N4KVE
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On the 645 I recently bought for $400, it came with 3 mags. 2 original steel follower mags, & 1 upgraded orange plastic follower mag. After I bought the gun, I took it to the range, & fired it with the original 27 year old steel follower mag, & it was perfect. I sometimes wonder if an upgrade is really an excuse to come out with a cheaper to make plastic follower mag. GARY
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