To get back on track, the Magpul CTR riser is not designed to be used on an AR as it extends forward of the stock and interferes with the charging handle even with the stock fully extended. Knowing how professional Magpul is and how fond they are of improving their products the fact that they have not changed their riser leads me to guess that they did this on purpose so their riser would not be used on AR's. Carbine risers are frowned upon by serious users because the purpose of collapsible stocks is to adjust length of pull for comfort and proper sight eye relief. The latter is very important when using a scoped rifle and body armor or if like some you were taught to shoot nose to charging handle. Adding something to a stock that interferes with proper function unless the stock is in a certain position is bad because someday when Murphy shows up and you need to cycle your action but your stock is one hole in you can miss your shot, and it may be a very important shot. Now about the use of the word "toy" what prompted this is the fact that I do consider these rifles a very useful tool that will introduce many new shooters to the world of black rifles and teach them how much fun and useful they are. And while some may never move up to larger calibers I believe that many will. And while it shouldn't bother me sometimes when I see users doing silly things I just have to shake my head.