More on the school shooter Cruz

[Rule3]

How the News "works"!

So in today's paper this article was only worthy to make page 10-11
Students protesting make the front page

This was in 2016!

Officials were so concerned about the mental stability of the student accused of last month's Florida school massacre that they decided he should be forcibly committed.

But who really cares now? The shoved some Bill through, so none of this matters I guess! It was the "guns" fault

"The documents were provided by a psychological assessment service initiated by Cruz's mother called Henderson Behavioral Health. The documents show a high school resource officer who was also a sheriff's deputy and two school counselors recommended in September 2016 that Cruz be committed for mental evaluation under Florida's Baker Act. That law allows for involuntary commitment for mental health examination for at least three days."

Give you one guess as to who the SRO was!!

Here is the whole article.

Some officials wanted Florida shooting suspect committed in 2016 - The Washington Post

 

[daniel lawecki]

If you look at a lot of the shooting they should have never happened. The parents didn't bother to care. The schools just pass these kids down the road to another school system. Heck there were calls about the hijackers to the FBI we all know how that ended. People just don't give a darn and turn a blind eye. Metal health in the country stinks kids are over medicated at a young age. X-box is the new babysitters we are in trouble here folks. And they will blame guns!

 

[jrm53]

School shooters

I was listening to a Radio preacher Sunday and he had a preacher from Australia and he brought up a point that I had never thought about, He says what has changed in the last 20 years, the guns are the same the magazines are the so why do we have this now? He thinks its the video games and violent movies and the general loss of morality in our population. If you think back we didn't have school shootings much before 1998 and with the cable news that cover this nonstop it seems they want to top the last episode. Jeff

 

[jag312]

One of my friends is a former Assistant US Attorney and presently a prominent defense attorney. We have talked many times, and we feel that violent video games desensitize the minds of our children. The games teach children killing without consequences.

 

[tlawler]

I was listening to a Radio preacher Sunday and he had a preacher from Australia and he brought up a point that I had never thought about, He says what has changed in the last 20 years, the guns are the same the magazines are the so why do we have this now? He thinks its the video games and violent movies and the general loss of morality in our population. If you think back we didn't have school shootings much before 1998 and with the cable news that cover this nonstop it seems they want to top the last episode. Jeff

You never thought about it? To me it has always been glaringly obvious!

 

[steveno]

read "On Combat" by Dave Crossman. there are a couple of scary chapters in it about kids , video games and violence

 

[Eagle 477]

It seems like all parents do theses days is push the kids in front of the TV with video games to get them out of their way.. When I was a kid we played cops and robbers and Cowboys and Indians... never a drop of blood was drawn... these days its Grand Theft Auto or Call of duty with more violence. And if the child doesn't fit in, we drug them up till they do...

Rob

 

[Rule3]

It is not just the video games. Heck 100 years ago I wrote a paper in College on violence on TV. The numbers then were astonishing.

Now with Movies, TV and the Video Games all it is is death and destruction.

Add in the dysfunctional family unit and a snowflake gets picked on and there is a recipe!

The big Movie Stares make millions and then protest guns??

Heaven forbid a child see a naked Women, that would be terrible (not porn)

 

[StakeOut]

I read here post assigning blame to games,TV and movies.

Isn't that the same as the anti's blaming the gun?

When I was a police officer I often read and heard that about 1 in every 10 people on this earth have a mental illness.Maybe it has increased to 1 in every nine or 2 in 10?

Millions of 1st person shooter and games with violence are sold annually.Every night since the advent of the television in many homes there's an action show on TV where the actors have a firearm.

Probably the same percentage of gamers commit violent acts as the percentage of legal gun owners?

People are the problem and that's what needs to be addressed in new legislation.

I'd also address the Press the 24 hr and their 1st amendment rights but that would turn into a rant.

 

[GaryS]

When I was a kid, we played "Army" with toy guns. About a dozen of us would spend a day in a vacant lot "shooting" each other.

Not one of us grew up to be a murderer. Two of the guys did however, go on to long police careers.

That was the 1960s version of "violent video games".

"Preachers" of all religions are going to blame a loss of morality, as they are in the morality business.

The one theme that seems to run through mass shooters (other than the terrorist kind), is that they lack a father or other strong male presence in their lives. Kids with two parents, both of whom are in the house and participate in child rearing, don't seem to be involved in this sort of behavior.

Make of that what you will.

One of my friends is a former Assistant US Attorney and presently a prominent defense attorney. We have talked many times, and we feel that violent video games desensitize the minds of our children. The games teach children killing without consequences.

 

[kamloops67]

It's a having both parent working thats the problem
Dad needs to bring home the meat while Mom cares for the cave
Xbox can't teach morals or principles

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

It's drugs IMHO. Either these "medicines" that seem to work like Dr. Jekyll's potions, or recreational ones.

 

[Papa32129]

Family structure is gone, dinner at the dining table, church on Sunday, no electronics, no social media. Reading books vs videos.
That's what I blame it on.


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[the ringo kid]

I read here post assigning blame to games,TV and movies.

Isn't that the same as the anti's blaming the gun?

When I was a police officer I often read and heard that about 1 in every 10 people on this earth have a mental illness.Maybe it has increased to 1 in every nine or 2 in 10?

Millions of 1st person shooter and games with violence are sold annually.Every night since the advent of the television in many homes there's an action show on TV where the actors have a firearm.

Probably the same percentage of gamers commit violent acts as the percentage of legal gun owners?

People are the problem and that's what needs to be addressed in new legislation.

I'd also address the Press the 24 hr and their 1st amendment rights but that would turn into a rant.

I agree to an extent. However, I personally have known several cases where the parents let the TVs, movies, radio and video game systems raise their kids instead of parenting them. Most of them ended up on repeat trips to prison, are still in prison, or dead. Only one I know of-who is out and on the straight and narrow. He's got a little girl to raise-a sick dad to care for, and a soon to be wife to care for.

 

[Rule3]

I read here post assigning blame to games,TV and movies.

Isn't that the same as the anti's blaming the gun?

When I was a police officer I often read and heard that about 1 in every 10 people on this earth have a mental illness.Maybe it has increased to 1 in every nine or 2 in 10?

Millions of 1st person shooter and games with violence are sold annually.Every night since the advent of the television in many homes there's an action show on TV where the actors have a firearm.

Probably the same percentage of gamers commit violent acts as the percentage of legal gun owners?

People are the problem and that's what needs to be addressed in new legislation.

I'd also address the Press the 24 hr and their 1st amendment rights but that would turn into a rant.

Yes, of course "people" are the problem and no it is not balming JUST games or TV/Movies

There is a whole lot wrong in many of these dysfuntional familes (as others have mentioned) that the OUTLETS for these people (games, movies violence) is the total combination of things.

Why do kids get into gangs? It is a way of life in some areas and they have no outlet, so they get sucked in. The same lifestyle perpetuates itself over and over.

It's a very complex subject.

Heck as we now know, things where in place to identify Cruz but nothing was done. So what do they do? Pass more laws!

What just happened in Maryland? The Kid had a handgun, well that is "illegal" and Maryland has very tight guns laws.

 

[the ringo kid]

When I was a kid, we played "Army" with toy guns. About a dozen of us would spend a day in a vacant lot "shooting" each other.

Not one of us grew up to be a murderer. Two of the guys did however, go on to long police careers.

That was the 1960s version of "violent video games".

"Preachers" of all religions are going to blame a loss of morality, as they are in the morality business.

The one theme that seems to run through mass shooters (other than the terrorist kind), is that they lack a father or other strong male presence in their lives. Kids with two parents, both of whom are in the house and participate in child rearing, don't seem to be involved in this sort of behavior.

Make of that what you will.

We played: COMBAT, Gunsmoke, Adam 12, etc for many hours on end. Never killed or hurt anyone either. One from our group became a Doc, a few ended up in the USAF/Army, Navy, two were in Law Enforcement, one became a local politician/lawyer, and the remaining two-now own businesses.

 

[the ringo kid]

Family structure is gone, dinner at the dining table, church on Sunday, no electronics, no social media. Reading books vs videos.
That's what I blame it on.


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