My AR setup-Too Complex?

A setup like yours severely limits left shoulder use; not a good limitation to have. My suggestion is to keep your AR lightweight for quick handling. Maybe a flip over magnifier, say 3X, available for your rifle. Definitely need a white light. The vertical forward hand grip is about 1 generation behind the times; some do well with them though. Your buttstock choice limits you. I'd suggest an adjustable stock that gives you a good cheek weld for both strong and weak shoulder.

The buttstock came with the rifle and is adjustable. Sights and front grip are the only add-ons
 

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Yeah, way too much unnecessary junk for an SD/Fighting gun. BUT, at least it's all mounted on an LMT (coming from a Daniel Defense guy...:D)

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Take about 3/4 of that **** off of it, sell it, and apply the proceeds to another AR so you have a spare.
That way if one is stolen out of your vehicle, or seized at a checkpoint at some time, you have a spare waiting at home.

Another thing- a gun with all that stuff on it attracts way too much attention, and makes a lot of people think you are some kind of Spec Ops wannabe.
Keep a light, and maybe one optical device.
Ditch the rest.
 
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The buttstock came with the rifle and is adjustable. Sights and front grip are the only add-ons

The entire AR platform could be considered as a forest of add-on's. Don't be afraid to change the butt stock; I usually do. My current go-to buttstock is a Magpull MOE-SL. Multi positions, to allow for different weights of clothing or perhaps a load bearing vest. Also affords me an excellent cheek weld for both strong and weak shoulder. Other useful features on it too. Basically my suggestion is don't be afraid to explore and replace things on an AR.
 
Less is more.
MBUIS, Red or Green dot optic, 3x magnifier.
Don't get me started on shoot-me-first lights....

I don't subscribe to the Swiss Army Knife builds.


But at the end of the day, it's your opinion that matters and not anyone else's.
 
Same story when people buy a new Glock, and grab their punch, and disassemble it, and replace factory parts with aftermarket "upgrades."

Then they wonder why it won't work.


Just because you can mod something, doesn't mean you should.
 
I go with the "less is more" crowd. So much so that I don't even OWN an AR!!

This is a whole nuthuh smoke, if you will! I like the attitude.

I was never interested in an AR until my beloved M1A was forced to be altered due to fire damage. I didn't like what it became (long story for another time) so I sold it as is and switched to an AR.

ARs are multi-purpose guns, you can hunt with them, fight with them, and tinker to the end of time with them. But at the end of the day they're simple battle rifles and adding a ton of pieces and parts to one gives you no added benefit. If you're a special operator then you will work in darkness often enough and whatever fighting tool that you use will need a few special accouterments. Emphasis on "few". Otherwise, KISS is the principle that applies.

Electing to not own one fits that principle quite well, actually.
 
Then what's your point?
Some are reading too far into my posts and adding things in their head.

So to make clear, other than a barrel change from 224 val to 6.8 spc, all my "mods" involved the picatiny rail and it has a factory adjustable stock. I don't plan on going any further than that. It came as a complete firearm from LMT.
 
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Less is more.
MBUIS, Red or Green dot optic, 3x magnifier.
Don't get me started on shoot-me-first lights....

I don't subscribe to the Swiss Army Knife builds.


But at the end of the day, it's your opinion that matters and not anyone else's.

We're all amigos here. The opinions expressed are deserved of consideration I think. I'm actually new to ARs and I like to ask questions and get opinions from the pros.
 
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Less is more.
MBUIS, Red or Green dot optic, 3x magnifier.
Don't get me started on shoot-me-first lights....

I don't subscribe to the Swiss Army Knife builds.


But at the end of the day, it's your opinion that matters and not anyone else's.

Agreed on the light.

Everyone thinks they need to have a light and they seem to think it always has to be on the gun, ignoring the whole modular capability issue¿

I even have a light. It's almost always detached. It only goes on the rifle if I am using the rifle at night in circumstances where I'd potentially need a light. Those situations are rare. I'm no longer an LEO and don't go into dark places looking for bad guys. The most likely scenario is a home invasion where I am also not absolutely sure of the location of the other members of the household and where someone has obviously broken in.

Using the light even then is a trade off. In my home at night, my eyes will be better light adapted than an intruder if he's been using a light, and I know my home intimately and can navigate it in the dark. Those are big advantages that you give up when you use a light. Consequently your use of a light has to have a very clearly defined purpose in that situation.

For example, your daughter has an idiot boyfriend who may have decided sneaking in at night was a good idea. In that case you may or may not decide to shoot him. You might decide that taking him down and having him arrested and hauled off by the police is a better option. A light may be required to make the positive ID either way and or to confirm it's the idiot boyfriend and not an armed intruder.

In either case, the light on my self defense rifle also has a momentary switch so that I can briefly flash the target for positive ID just before I shoot it - or not.

It's also mounted without a remote switch, etc and instead is positioned on the forearm so that the momentary switch on the back end can be pressed with the thumb of my support hand. Keep it simple.

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Someone above also made a comment on self defense weapons not needing batteries and that's spot on.

The above braced pistol is my truck gun and is intended for use out to 200 yards. The Burris 332 works very well for that as the magnification is low enough to let me shoot close quarters with both eyes open with the big donut element of the reticle visible in my dominant eye. The finer elements in the reticle make precise hold points for longer range work.

The reticle in the 332 is illuminated but doesn't have to be as it's a prism scope with the reticle built in.
 
Hey man it's your gun have fun. I don't have an AR but if I did it would not look like that. Either a red dot or scope not both. Depending want I planned for it.
 
I prefer the Mini 14 to the Ar-15 in real world use as they are extremely reliable and do a good job of shucking any dirt out of the action rather than grinding to a halt like the close tolerances AR-15.
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The open action of the Garand, M14, M1 Carbine and Mini-14 have all proven much more susceptible to jams due to dirt ingress than the closed action of the AR-15.

I have personally only stopped an M16A2 from working by feeding it ammo caked in mud. I would never do that to my own rifle. Of course, they also don't like running dry...but that's more an operator error.
 
Simple and to the point.

Colt CRE-18, Leupold illuminated 4x12

Mag-Pul 45 offset irons. Rifle is 1/2 MOA.

IMHO, needs to be nothing else.
 

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"My AR setup-Too Complex?"

Yes. Yes, it is... but if it makes you happy. You know you've gone over the edge as a "Walmart operator" or "mall ninja" if you also wear 511s bloused, wear a thigh holster with G17/33 round mag, have grown a full beard and eat MREs several times a month.

In all seriousness, do what makes you happy.
 
I don't have an AR. But I think your rifle as it comes from the box unless there is nothing that is in need of immediate repair is a rifle that would serve you well, the same as my 3030.
 
Just right if that is the way you want it.
More than I have on mine but that is mine and not yours.
Enjoy the heck out of it.
 

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