Yep, I agree with this also. I’ve installed Wilson Combat sights from the beginning on my 4” and 6” New Model Pythons, several years ago now. Colt should be ashamed of the newer Python’s rear sight.
My Colt Python Rant!
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My S&W K-frames are looking better and better.
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Sounds like it’s “within Colt’s Acceptable Standards ” I sent back 2 King Cobras and 1 of my Wife’s King Cobras a year ago! The bores were all crooked and either the barrels were too short or the barrel shroud was too long. None of the 3 fit flush together, unlike my Anaconda or my 2 Pythons. Apparently they were in acceptable standards.
my 3” KC was a Talo exclusive. They couldn’t even get a loan number of exclusively produce revolvers to be quality made. this explains why Cole keeps going through bankruptcy. CZ needs to build a new plant down south and fire all those garbage union employees they have who make garbage guns well except for the ones that they turn out good quality however, many that is maybe those are the ones that are made in the middle of the week.dogkinkead
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One of the many reasons I buy Ruger revolvers
"The rear sight windage adjustment is done by loosening a very small (0.50") set screw."
Maybe it is just me, but I wouldn't call a 1/2" set screw very small. I think you might need to move your decimal point.
How did you determine the bores were crooked, and in what way were they crooked? You managed to get 3 with crooked barrels? Colts don't have barrel shrouds; they are 1 piece barrels. The end of the barrel on a 3" KC looks different from the Python and Anaconda in that it doesn't have the projected step at the muzzle. It is supposed to look like this; it's a recessed crown.Sounds like it's "within Colt's Acceptable Standards " I sent back 2 King Cobras and 1 of my Wife's King Cobras a year ago! The bores were all crooked and either the barrels were too short or the barrel shroud was too long. None of the 3 fit flush together, unlike my Anaconda or my 2 Pythons. Apparently they were in acceptable standards.
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I bought a new 6” blued python with the walnut grips and I’m very happy with it. It shot great (both .38 snd .357’s) and I have no issues with it at all.
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Always wanted a Python,the blue was what got me hooked on them.then one day at the shop I was working at (late 70’s)ordered a python for a state police officer that was retiring,his gift to himself.well we got it ordered and when it came in called him and he unboxed it himself,pulled the hammer back and the hammer spur broke off,he put it back in the box and very politely asked for his money back,that ended my colt fascination
Yup, for an Ersatz Python $1,500 for the gun, $200 for a rear sight and $250 for a trigger job, plus tax $127 (at least) and $45 shipping, $25.00 F.F.L. transfer fee equals $2147. I spent less than that ($2000) on an "Original Real Python" at a gun show and the gun had only 1 box of shells shot through it. Yes there still are deals on "Real Original Pythons" if you know were to look and buy.
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Back in the mid 70s had many friends that owned Pythons and carried them(LEOs) We shot together and I shot their Pythons many times and they were very nice. However several developed serious issues and our master gun smith fixed them usually by changing or Bending springs. Reason I stuck with S&Ws. Whatever floats one’s boat….
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When setting up for PPC in the 1970s and IDPA in the 1990s, I replaced the Accro sights on Original Pythons with Elliasons.
I have the "barn door" Weigand rear sight blade on a couple of Smiths, too.
I have the "barn door" Weigand rear sight blade on a couple of Smiths, too.
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Back in the 90's I bought a 6" Stainless. It was Pricey, but I just had to have one. No blue models were available. It went out of time in less than 50rds. Of course I had no idea what was wrong, with this fine piece of Colt Craftsmanship, so I took it to the local Colt warranty shop, and they guy was very nice. Filled out a repair tag, and said thank you. I had no idea he was sending it back to Colt. It was about two weeks later that I got the call, that Colt had my gun and they would let me know when they would be sending it back. This was April. Thanksgiving week, I get a call from the warranty repair shop, that my gun has arrived. So I took time off of work to go pick it up. I was so happy. I went directly to the Indoor Range and proceeded to run a few through it when much to my surprise, the gun almost fell out of my hands. Lucky I was just ejecting empties... Well as it turned out the "Colt" wannabe Pachmayr Grips had been over tightened, and the nut which was just embedded in the rubber, just pulled the rest of the way out. I was so pissed, but since I had paid for range time, I went out to the counter and bought a set of "REAL" Pachmayr Grips, and with a borrowed screwdriver was back in business. But the story doesn't end there. So I call the warranty shop and explain what happened, and as expected the reply was bring it in and we will take a look at it. When I arrived, Colt Grips In Hand. I was asked where is the gun... I said out in my car... His reply, well we have to send the gun back to Colt with the "GRIPS". So I borrowed a screw driver, removed the Pachmayr Grips, handed him the gun and the Wannabe Grips and this time it was April of the following year before I got the gun back. Now I was not kind to that gun after that, I've run hundreds of "Target Loads" through it, and it has taken the abuse very well. The Moral Of The Story, I think I would have been better served with a Ruger GP100.
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Shroud is what slides over the barrel. The barrel is off center and doesn’t fit flush with the formation shroud
Good post, thanks for the info, now we have visual proof of yet another short cut Colt made in the Ersatz Python.
Again, Colts do not have 2 piece barrels, so there is no outer shroud like on a new S&W. That is a 1-piece barrel. The recess you see is not the barrel inset into a shroud, that is a machined recess. The edge of the bore is not supposed to be flush; it has a recessed crown, as does all of the new Colts, including the Python and Anaconda. Recessed crowns help protect the edge of the muzzle from nicks and other damage. It's hard to tell if the bore is off-center from that pic because the pic is taken with the gun tilted at an angle which would make one side of the bore appear to be thinner walled because part of the crown recess is concealing it due to the tilt angle.
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That isn't a Python, that's a King Cobra, and that's a recessed crown. That's the way it's supposed to be; it isn't a flaw. Lots of guns have recessed crowns. It also isn't a 2-piece barrel with inner barrel tube and outer shroud, it's a 1 piece barrel.
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Nope Mr know it all. My anaconda is flush as are my 2 pythons and my .22 King Cobra. NO GUN EVER SHOULD HAVE A BARELL THAT’S NOT FLUSH WITH THE SHROUD TOP STRAP WHATEVER. Go buy 6 Colt revolvers like me and then get back to me
INCORRECT! You are obviously talking about the OLD series Python and Anaconda, which did have flush muzzle crowns. That is not the case with the NEW revolvers they are making. All of the NEW series Pythons, Anacondas, Cobras, King Cobras, etc do indeed have recessed muzzle crowns. That is a simple fact. I own all of them, so here I am "getting back to you."
Also, the barrels are NOT 2 piece; they DO NOT have shrouds. They are 1 piece barrels. The inset counterbore you showed in your photo is exactly how all the NEW King Cobras and King Cobra Targets are supposed to be; that is not a flaw. Your assumptions are incorrect.
If you look in the corner of the counterbore on the end of your barrel, you will see a radius. That is because that counterbore is milled in there with an endmill and the corner radius is the corner radius on the end mill used to cut that recess. If it was a 2 piece barrel, then that would be a sharp corner because they would be 2 separate parts. They are not. Colt put out a factory tour video in which they clearly say and show that all of their new revolver barrels are machined from a single piece of bar stock. You can see for yourself starting at 4:13 in this video where the Colt representative shows the 1-piece barrel.
https://rumble.com/v6vl1yz-birth-of...re.html?e9s=src_v1_pl&playlist_id=Gs-kGywc8V0
All of the CURRENT Colt double action revolvers now come from the factory with recessed muzzle crowns! Lots and lots of guns have recessed muzzle crowns. That is a common feature added to guns to help protect the muzzle crown from getting nicked. In fact, when a custom gunsmith rebarrels a gun, they usually machine a recess on the crown because that is a desirable feature to have and most customers ask for it. Most of the rifles you buy today come with recessed crowns. There are just as many if not more guns with recessed muzzle crowns than flush crowns! Almost all custom 1911s have conical recessed crowns. If you are not familiar with recessed muzzle crowns on guns of all types, you haven't been paying attention or you have limited firearms experience. They have existed on guns of all types for at least 100 years.
First pic is the muzzle end of my NEW series Python.
Second pic is the muzzle of my NEW series Anaconda.
Third pic is the muzzle of my NEW series King Cobra Target .22
Fourth pic is the muzzle of a King Cobra .357 just like yours I copied from GB.
The photo you posted of your King Cobra is EXACTLY the way it is supposed to be from the factory; it is not a defect!
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Exactly and I have a Cougar.
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I do too. She’s 97 years old next Wednesday.
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I’m not sure why people continue to insist the new Colt’s have two piece sleeved barrels, I guess they refuse to watch the Colt video, or don’t believe their own eyes.
My S&W 41’s have barrels with counterbored muzzles, they are made from one piece of bar stock.
I’m not sure why people continue to insist the new Colt’s have two piece sleeved barrels, I guess they refuse to watch the Colt video, or don’t believe their own eyes.
My S&W 41’s have barrels with counterbored muzzles, they are made from one piece of bar stock.
It's bizarre for sure. I get sarcastically called "Mr know it all" simply for trying to provide factual information about a gun that's common knowledge, with the intent of being helpful and reassuring a guy that what he thought was a defect wasn't.
Another example... here's the muzzle of my S&W Model 63, showing that, like the new Colt revolvers, it too has a recessed crown. Unlike most new S&W revolvers, the new M63 has a 1-piece barrel.
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Smiths are a better value.
If money is no object, the Colt is a better gun.
Buying guns, then complaining about the cost is like jumping in the pool and complaining that you got wet.
If money is no object, the Colt is a better gun.
Buying guns, then complaining about the cost is like jumping in the pool and complaining that you got wet.
I have one of the new Python’s and agree the rear sight is atrocious. I am going to replace mine soon. I can’t get is centered it;s always an inch to the left or to the right. The rear sight blade moves.
I am also going to get a fiber optic front sight.
Out of my five Colts I had one Anaconda which was from Talo with a bad rear sight. But since GAG gave me such a great deal I took some of the savings and bought a Wilson rear sight which it needed since the pistol came with a front bead sight not a typical ramp. My 617 came with a very hard trigger pull both in SA and Double. I sent $25 to Mr. M and everything is sweet. And for the drop test hump on the Colts, pretty simple fix just find it on U Tube. Too many things wrong in this world today, if you don't like your gun, it is normally an easy fix.
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