My first 3" J Frame

AJR337

Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2019
Messages
355
Reaction score
725
I've always had 2" (I know...1 7/8") J frames but ran across this 3" Model 36 no dash on a popular online site for a great price. I threw out an even lower offer (which was accepted) and then remembered that I received a $25 coupon the day before for any purchases of $300 or more...so I was able to get it for $275 ($300 with tax and delivery).

It was filthy, had some light rust in spots, and a fair amount of holster wear so I did a complete break down and soaked it in a kroil bath for several days. Then I used some OOOO bronze wool to remove the rust and gave it a good cleaning.

The original grips are numbers matching but were extremely worn so I replaced them with a set from Thailand that feel and look great.

It also needed a couple of shims...one for the yoke and another for the cylinder but the lockup and timing are perfect now.

And I'm really liking the feel of the 3" barrel...the slightly heavier front end gives it a nice balance and the square butt frame fits my hand well. It might just be perception but it seems easier and more comfortable to shoot compared to my 2" models.

And (of course) a couple of pics...

1000015553.webp

1000015549.webp
 
Last edited:
Register to hide this ad
Oh, that's a beauty! :D What a job you did on the clean-up, amigo! Wow, you're going to love carrying that one - it's really all a man needs. Gorgeous!

Mine (notably less pretty and slightly customized) sends its regards.



By the way, you are going to love the extra velocity you get - and the added sight radius is no downside; plus, except for pocket-carry, a 3" totes better than a snub (more stable, don't you know?).

 
Oh, that's a beauty! :D What a job you did on the clean-up, amigo! Wow, you're going to love carrying that one - it's really all a man needs. Gorgeous!

Mine (notably less pretty and slightly customized) sends its regards.



By the way, you are going to love the extra velocity you get - and the added sight radius is no downside; plus, except for pocket-carry, a 3" totes better than a snub (more stable, don't you know?).

Thanks! I'm really liking it. It required a bit of effort to clean it up but I enjoy restoring/tinkering so that part was fun as well and worth it.

Those stag grips and grip adapter are classic.

And you're right between the slightly heavier front end and longer sight radius, it's a really nice shooter.
 
Last edited:
I've always had 2" (I know...1 7/8") J frames but ran across this 3" Model 36 no dash on a popular online site for a great price. I threw out an even lower offer (which was accepted) and then remembered that I received a $25 coupon the day before for any purchases of $300 or more...so I was able to get it for $275 ($300 with tax and delivery).

It was filthy, had some light rust in spots, and a fair amount of holster wear so I did a complete break down and soaked it in a kroil bath for several days. Then I used some OOOO bronze wool to remove the rust and gave it a good cleaning.

The original grips are numbers matching but were extremely worn so I replaced them with a set from Thailand that feel and look great.

It also needed a couple of shims...one for the yoke and another for the cylinder but the lockup and timing are perfect now.

And I'm really liking the feel of the 3" barrel...the slightly heavier front end gives it a nice balance and the square butt frame fits my hand well. It might just be perception but it seems easier and more comfortable to shoot compared to my 2" models.

And (of course) a couple of pics...

View attachment 795184

View attachment 795185
Interesting stocks.
My 36-1 square butt came with target stocks which I really like for target shooting. Off hand they fit perfect, and any two handed stance they still provide good control. A little tight for the Comp II speedloaders.

543517-c3cfb1152eeef872a0f60c2e5fdcab12.data


I bought a pair of magnas and a BK filler. Almost as good but not quite.
36-1_0779-cr.webp

Difference could have been just me too.
36-1_2023-12-01_SA_Grips-r.webp
 
Thanks! I'm really liking it. It required a bit of effort to clean it up but I enjoy restoring/tinkering so that part was fun as well and worth it.

Those stag grips and grip adapter are classic.

And your right between the slightly heavier front end and longer sight radius, it's a really nice shooter.
Well, now you did it - I went and got mine out to wear. :)

 
Interesting stocks.
My 36-1 square butt came with target stocks which I really like for target shooting. Off hand they fit perfect, and any two handed stance they still provide good control. A little tight for the Comp II speedloaders.

543517-c3cfb1152eeef872a0f60c2e5fdcab12.data


I bought a pair of magnas and a BK filler. Almost as good but not quite.
View attachment 795193

Difference could have been just me too.
View attachment 795194
Very nice... the 36-1 has the heavy barrel?

I originally bought a BK grip adapter and was looking for a new set of magna grips but stumbled upon these on Ebay.

I removed the original finish, fitted/sanded them, and finished with a few coats of tung oil.

They're very comfortable so I'll probable keep them for now.

Also, the back strap was pretty scratched up and had some light surface rust so I planned to stipple it (and probably will eventually) but sanded and reblued it for now.

1000015562.webp
1000015561.webp
1000015560.webp
1000015559.webp
1000015558.webp
 
Very nice... the 36-1 has the heavy barrel?
Yes. My understanding is that all 36-1 were 3" heavy barrel.
I originally bought a BK grip adapter and was looking for a new set of magna grips but stumbled upon these on Ebay.

I removed the original finish, fitted/sanded them, and finished with a few coats of tung oil.

They're very comfortable so I'll probable keep them for now.
If they work for you then that's a winner! I think on a non-collectible some custom fitting can be a good thing.

I actually already had the B-K adapter on a Charter Undercover. The Charter now has bulldog grips that I've been reshaping over time. The B-K adapter I slightly reshaped for the Charter and also reduced the high spot so my smaller hand better fits. But now the targets are back on the 36-1 and I think will stay on for a while.

My 36-1 had light primer strikes serious enough that hard primered ammo didn't always fire, especially double action. I have whole thread about it. Got it to where it seems OK with most other ammo.
 
Yes. My understanding is that all 36-1 were 3" heavy barrel.

If they work for you then that's a winner! I think on a non-collectible some custom fitting can be a good thing.

I actually already had the B-K adapter on a Charter Undercover. The Charter now has bulldog grips that I've been reshaping over time. The B-K adapter I slightly reshaped for the Charter and also reduced the high spot so my smaller hand better fits. But now the targets are back on the 36-1 and I think will stay on for a while.

My 36-1 had light primer strikes serious enough that hard primered ammo didn't always fire, especially double action. I have whole thread about it. Got it to where it seems OK with most other ammo.
I thought about bobbing the hammer on mine but don't want to run into potential ignition problems.
 
Looks like a solid deal. I've never really been a fan of the 3", but when I found this Jovino 3" model 60 at a local shop at regular model 60 prices, I couldn't say no.


View attachment 795231
Aesthetically, I prefer the 2" but the 3" carries almost as well and the slightly longer barrel makes it a bit easier to shoot.

That Jovino 3" is extremely nice.
 
I've had a hankering for a 3" j frame 38 Special with adjustable sights and a RB for a long time but never came across one when I had the money available to buy. This thread is bringing back the itch haha
 
I thought about bobbing the hammer on mine but don't want to run into potential ignition problems.
No do not do that. I carried a 3 inch as a federal investigator and later for CCW. If you will shoot the Q load, the 130 grain ball ammo, you can hit gallon jugs at 100 yards single action. I did demonstrations for decades, your peers will be impressed.

That load is such that if you place the front sight as the bottom of the groove, the elevation is correct for the 100 yard shot.

Once you get it from a bench you can do it with a 2 hand hold about 60% of the time. Few people can hit a gallon jug at 100 yards with a snub gun, it will make you stand out.

If you use other ammo, just mark a spot on your front ramp sight to show the trajectory.

long-distance-pistol-sight-picture2.webp

Never bob the hammer on a 3 inch, it destroy the ability to make shots at distance and in an older Smith and Wesson lowers the value.

I also have a 3 inch model 60, in 357 of course and with adjustable sites, Remarkable little guns. That said, the model 36 3 inch pin barrel gun will do it all. Mine also has the T grip.

I knew Melvin personally back in the day and frequented his shop when I lived in Oklahoma City. Melvin made a custom holster for me by the way. I bought lots of his stuff, trigger shoes we put on our model 19s we carried on duty and we put them on our deer rifles to make the triggers feel lighter, still have some. We had no clue the T Grip would become a cult device, I should have bought a bunch. lol
 
Never bob the hammer on a 3 inch, it destroy the ability to make shots at distance and in an older Smith and Wesson lowers the value.
I believe you are wrong in this statement, sir. :) Everyone should do what suits his needs - period. The partially bobbed (to match the profile on a 547) hammer on my 36-1 delivers just fine at distance - single-action notch is intact and functional (but all us S&W revolver aficionados all primarily shoot DA anyhow, don't we? We're not shooting Bullseye with our J-frames.). And, value? It's not as if we're talking about rare gems - many pristine guns exist for collectors, but working guns' value is in their utility - not what some hypothetical collector (and they're getting thin on the ground as the Boomers pass) might pay.
 
Last edited:
OP - that was a nice find. Those of you who replied. Some beautiful examples of three inch 36s. My dad has a pair of square butts. He bought them at separate times in the 70s and carried them when he worked undercover dope and later as a regular detective. One on each hip. They've worn the original grips with Tyler T-grips and then Pachmeyer Grippers. I haven't seen them in years. I have a 60-3 three inch myself that came from the factory as DAO with a bobbed hammer. I bought that one new in 1990.
 
Last edited:
Mine is a 60-10 .357 with adjustable rear sight.-, and Spegel "extended" Boot Grips.
Hard to beat as a companion to a long gun while hunting or a small town concealed carry.
I prefer a "higher cap" auto like a 3913 or 6906 for urban carry and/or faster reloads
 

Latest posts

Back
Top